* [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package @ 2024-10-09 3:56 Chuang Xu 2024-10-09 4:21 ` Zhao Liu ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Chuang Xu @ 2024-10-09 3:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: qemu-devel Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Chuang Xu, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin When QEMU is started with: -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 On Intel platform: CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package". When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of 90 for CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is disabled, guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/(1+63)=1" as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. And on AMD platform: CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current result meets our expectation. So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> --- target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 --- a/target/i386/cpu.c +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t index, uint32_t count, } *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; + /* + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs maximum + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per package. + */ + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; + } else { + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; + } *edx |= CPUID_HT; } if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { -- 2.20.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-09 3:56 [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package Chuang Xu @ 2024-10-09 4:21 ` Zhao Liu 2024-10-12 7:13 ` Xiaoyao Li ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-09 4:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu Cc: qemu-devel, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 11:56:38AM +0800, Chuang Xu wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:56:38 +0800 > From: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> > Subject: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical > processors in the physical package > X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.39.3 (Apple Git-146) > > When QEMU is started with: > -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off > -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 > > On Intel platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for > logical processors in the physical package". > > When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of 90 for > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, > executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for > CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. > > As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, > we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 > integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. > > For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is disabled, > guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to > calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/(1+63)=1" > as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. > > And on AMD platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current > result meets our expectation. > > So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer > only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. > > Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> > Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> > Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> > --- > target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) This version is fine for me, thanks. -Zhao ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-09 3:56 [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package Chuang Xu 2024-10-09 4:21 ` Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-12 7:13 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-12 8:10 ` Chuang Xu 2024-10-12 8:21 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-12-03 7:36 ` Zhao Liu 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 7:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu, qemu-devel Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: > When QEMU is started with: > -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off > -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 > > On Intel platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for > logical processors in the physical package". > > When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of 90 for > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, > executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for > CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. > > As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, > we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 > integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. > > For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is disabled, > guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to > calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/(1+63)=1" > as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. > > And on AMD platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current > result meets our expectation. So for AMD platform, what's result for the same situation with xtopology disabled? Does AMD uses another algorithm to calculate other than CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) ? > So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer > only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. > > Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> > Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> > Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> > --- > target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c > index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 > --- a/target/i386/cpu.c > +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c > @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t index, uint32_t count, > } > *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; > if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { > - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; > + /* > + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs maximum > + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per package. > + */ > + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { > + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; > + } else { > + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; > + } you need to handle the overflow case when the number of logical processors > 255. > *edx |= CPUID_HT; > } > if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-12 7:13 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 8:10 ` Chuang Xu 2024-10-12 8:32 ` Xiaoyao Li 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Chuang Xu @ 2024-10-12 8:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel Hi, Xiaoyao On 10/12/24 下午3:13, Xiaoyao Li wrote: > On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >> When QEMU is started with: >> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >> >> On Intel platform: >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >> logical processors in the physical package". >> >> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of >> 90 for >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >> >> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >> >> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is >> disabled, >> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get >> "90/(1+63)=1" >> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >> >> And on AMD platform: >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current >> result meets our expectation. > > So for AMD platform, what's result for the same situation with > xtopology disabled? Does AMD uses another algorithm to calculate other > than CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) ? > For amd platform, CPUID.04H is reserved, so it uses CPUID.8000001E.EAX[15:8] (fied ThreadsPerComputeUnit) to obtain the result. >> So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >> integer >> only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. >> >> Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> >> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> >> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> >> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> >> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> >> --- >> target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- >> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c >> index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 >> --- a/target/i386/cpu.c >> +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c >> @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t >> index, uint32_t count, >> } >> *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; >> if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { >> - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >> + /* >> + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs >> maximum >> + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per >> package. >> + */ >> + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { >> + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >> + } else { >> + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; >> + } > > you need to handle the overflow case when the number of logical > processors > 255. > It seems other cpuid cases of bit shifting don't condiser the overflow case too.. Since intel only reserves 8bits for this field, do you have any suggestions to make sure this field emulated correctly? >> *edx |= CPUID_HT; >> } >> if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-12 8:10 ` Chuang Xu @ 2024-10-12 8:32 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-12 8:56 ` Zhao Liu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 10/12/2024 4:10 PM, Chuang Xu wrote: > Hi, Xiaoyao > > On 10/12/24 下午3:13, Xiaoyao Li wrote: >> On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >>> When QEMU is started with: >>> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >>> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >>> >>> On Intel platform: >>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >>> logical processors in the physical package". >>> >>> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of >>> 90 for >>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >>> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >>> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >>> >>> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >>> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >>> >>> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is >>> disabled, >>> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ >>> (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >>> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/ >>> (1+63)=1" >>> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >>> >>> And on AMD platform: >>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current >>> result meets our expectation. >> >> So for AMD platform, what's result for the same situation with >> xtopology disabled? Does AMD uses another algorithm to calculate other >> than CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) ? >> > For amd platform, CPUID.04H is reserved, so it uses > CPUID.8000001E.EAX[15:8] (fied ThreadsPerComputeUnit) to obtain the result. Does AMD support leaf 8000001E at the beginning when it starts to support multi-threads/multi-cores? (just my curiosity) >>> So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>> integer >>> only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. >>> >>> Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> >>> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> >>> --- >>> target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- >>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >>> >>> diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c >>> index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 >>> --- a/target/i386/cpu.c >>> +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c >>> @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t >>> index, uint32_t count, >>> } >>> *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; >>> if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { >>> - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >>> + /* >>> + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs >>> maximum >>> + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per >>> package. >>> + */ >>> + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { >>> + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >>> + } else { >>> + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; >>> + } >> >> you need to handle the overflow case when the number of logical >> processors > 255. >> > It seems other cpuid cases of bit shifting don't condiser the overflow > case too.. > > Since intel only reserves 8bits for this field, do you have any > suggestions to make sure this field emulated > > correctly? the usual option can be masking the value to only 8 bits before shifting, like ((1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info)) & 0xff) << 16 but when the value is greater than 255, it will be truncated, so we need something like below to reflect the hardware behavior: MIN((1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info)), 255) << 16 This is what Qian's patch [1] wanted to fix last year, but that patch never gets merged. [1] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20230829042405.932523-2-qian.wen@intel.com/ >>> *edx |= CPUID_HT; >>> } >>> if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-12 8:32 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 8:56 ` Zhao Liu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-12 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel > > > > + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { > > > > + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; > > > > + } else { > > > > + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; > > > > + } > > > > > > you need to handle the overflow case when the number of logical > > > processors > 255. > > > > > It seems other cpuid cases of bit shifting don't condiser the overflow > > case too.. > > > > Since intel only reserves 8bits for this field, do you have any > > suggestions to make sure this field emulated > > > > correctly? > > the usual option can be masking the value to only 8 bits before shifting, > like > > ((1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info)) & 0xff) << 16 > > but when the value is greater than 255, it will be truncated, so we need > something like below to reflect the hardware behavior: > > MIN((1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info)), 255) << 16 > > This is what Qian's patch [1] wanted to fix last year, but that patch never > gets merged. > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20230829042405.932523-2-qian.wen@intel.com/ > That's on my list. I had the plan to help Qian pick up it again and rebase that series on Chuang's change. -Zhao ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-09 3:56 [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package Chuang Xu 2024-10-09 4:21 ` Zhao Liu 2024-10-12 7:13 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 8:21 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-12 9:28 ` Zhao Liu 2024-10-12 9:35 ` Chuang Xu 2024-12-03 7:36 ` Zhao Liu 3 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 8:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu, qemu-devel Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: > When QEMU is started with: > -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off > -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 > > On Intel platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for > logical processors in the physical package". > > When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of 90 for > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, > executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for > CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. > > As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, > we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 > integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. > > For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is disabled, > guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to > calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/(1+63)=1" > as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. It's kernel's bug instead. In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the neartest power-of-two integer instead of itself being the power-of-two. This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit 23-16 of CPUID.1:EBX is: The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., - EBX[23:16]: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical package - pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]): the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. [1] https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/759067/intel-64-architecture-processor-topology-enumeration.pdf > And on AMD platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current > result meets our expectation. > > So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer > only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. > > Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> > Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> > Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> > --- > target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c > index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 > --- a/target/i386/cpu.c > +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c > @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t index, uint32_t count, > } > *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; > if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { > - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; > + /* > + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs maximum > + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per package. > + */ > + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { > + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; > + } else { > + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; > + } > *edx |= CPUID_HT; > } > if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-12 8:21 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-12 9:28 ` Zhao Liu 2024-10-12 9:35 ` Chuang Xu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-12 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: Chuang Xu, qemu-devel, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin > This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit 23-16 of > CPUID.1:EBX is: > > The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is > the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing > different logical processors in a physical package. > > What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller > than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., “not smaller” means “greater than or equal to” (≥). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-12 8:21 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-12 9:28 ` Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-12 9:35 ` Chuang Xu 2024-10-14 0:36 ` Xiaoyao Li 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Chuang Xu @ 2024-10-12 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 10/12/24 下午4:21, Xiaoyao Li wrote: > On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >> When QEMU is started with: >> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >> >> On Intel platform: >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >> logical processors in the physical package". >> >> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of >> 90 for >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >> >> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >> >> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is >> disabled, >> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get >> "90/(1+63)=1" >> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. > > It's kernel's bug instead. > > In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel > 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is > > - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ > (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) > > The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the neartest > power-of-two integer instead of itself being the power-of-two. > > This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit 23-16 > of CPUID.1:EBX is: > > The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is > the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing > different logical processors in a physical package. > > What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not > smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description in sdm is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of 2 in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. > > - EBX[23:16]: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors > in this physical package > > - pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]): the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved > for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. > > [1] > https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/759067/intel-64-architecture-processor-topology-enumeration.pdf > >> And on AMD platform: >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current >> result meets our expectation. >> >> So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >> integer >> only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. >> >> Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> >> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> >> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> >> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> >> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> >> --- >> target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- >> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c >> index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 >> --- a/target/i386/cpu.c >> +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c >> @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t >> index, uint32_t count, >> } >> *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; >> if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { >> - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >> + /* >> + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs >> maximum >> + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per >> package. >> + */ >> + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { >> + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >> + } else { >> + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; >> + } >> *edx |= CPUID_HT; >> } >> if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-12 9:35 ` Chuang Xu @ 2024-10-14 0:36 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-14 1:32 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-14 3:36 ` Zhao Liu 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-14 0:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 10/12/2024 5:35 PM, Chuang Xu wrote: > > On 10/12/24 下午4:21, Xiaoyao Li wrote: >> On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >>> When QEMU is started with: >>> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >>> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >>> >>> On Intel platform: >>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >>> logical processors in the physical package". >>> >>> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of >>> 90 for >>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >>> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >>> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >>> >>> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >>> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >>> >>> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is >>> disabled, >>> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ >>> (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >>> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/ >>> (1+63)=1" >>> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >> >> It's kernel's bug instead. >> >> In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel >> 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is >> >> - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ >> (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) >> >> The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the neartest >> power-of-two integer instead of itself being the power-of-two. >> >> This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit 23-16 >> of CPUID.1:EBX is: >> >> The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is >> the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing >> different logical processors in a physical package. >> >> What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not >> smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., > > Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my > 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up > > to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with > Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description > in sdm > > is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of 2 > in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. I think above justification is important. We need to justify our changes with the fact and correct reason. I somehow agree to set EBX[23:16] to a value of power-of-2, because the 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec says CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] represents the maximum number of addressable IDs (initial APIC ID) that can be assigned to logical processors in a physical package. The value may not be the same as the number of logical processors that are present in the hardware of a physical package. It uses the word "may not". However, the justification of the change cannot be "it leads to unexpected results in guest" because the guest implementation is not correct. >> >> - EBX[23:16]: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors >> in this physical package >> >> - pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]): the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved >> for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. >> >> [1] https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/759067/intel-64-architecture- >> processor-topology-enumeration.pdf >> >>> And on AMD platform: >>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current >>> result meets our expectation. >>> >>> So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>> integer >>> only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. >>> >>> Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> >>> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> >>> --- >>> target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- >>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >>> >>> diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c >>> index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 >>> --- a/target/i386/cpu.c >>> +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c >>> @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t >>> index, uint32_t count, >>> } >>> *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; >>> if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { >>> - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >>> + /* >>> + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel needs >>> maximum >>> + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per >>> package. >>> + */ >>> + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { >>> + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >>> + } else { >>> + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; >>> + } >>> *edx |= CPUID_HT; >>> } >>> if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-14 0:36 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-14 1:32 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-14 3:36 ` Zhao Liu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-14 1:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu Cc: pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, zhao1.liu, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 10/14/2024 8:36 AM, Xiaoyao Li wrote: > On 10/12/2024 5:35 PM, Chuang Xu wrote: >> >> On 10/12/24 下午4:21, Xiaoyao Li wrote: >>> On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >>>> When QEMU is started with: >>>> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >>>> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >>>> >>>> On Intel platform: >>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >>>> logical processors in the physical package". >>>> >>>> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of >>>> 90 for >>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >>>> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >>>> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >>>> >>>> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 >>>> integer, >>>> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>>> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >>>> >>>> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is >>>> disabled, >>>> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ >>>> (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >>>> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/ >>>> (1+63)=1" >>>> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >>> >>> It's kernel's bug instead. >>> >>> In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel >>> 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is >>> >>> - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ >>> (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) >>> >>> The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the neartest >>> power-of-two integer instead of itself being the power-of-two. >>> >>> This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit >>> 23-16 of CPUID.1:EBX is: >>> >>> The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is >>> the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing >>> different logical processors in a physical package. >>> >>> What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not >>> smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., >> >> Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my >> 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up >> >> to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with >> Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description >> in sdm >> >> is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of >> 2 in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. > > I think above justification is important. We need to justify our changes > with the fact and correct reason. > > I somehow agree to set EBX[23:16] to a value of power-of-2, because the > 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 > Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec says > > CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] represents the maximum number of addressable IDs > (initial APIC ID) that can be assigned to logical processors in a > physical package. The value may not be the same as the number of > logical processors that are present in the hardware of a physical > package. > > It uses the word "may not". > > However, the justification of the change cannot be "it leads to > unexpected results in guest" because the guest implementation is not > correct. FYI, latest linux already fix the issue, it calculates the shift via tscan->ebx1_nproc_shift = get_count_order(ebx.nproc); >>> >>> - EBX[23:16]: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors >>> in this physical package >>> >>> - pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]): the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved >>> for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. >>> >>> [1] https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/759067/intel-64-architecture- >>> processor-topology-enumeration.pdf >>> >>>> And on AMD platform: >>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current >>>> result meets our expectation. >>>> >>>> So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>>> integer >>>> only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. >>>> >>>> Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> >>>> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> >>>> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> >>>> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> >>>> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> >>>> --- >>>> target/i386/cpu.c | 10 +++++++++- >>>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c >>>> index ff227a8c5c..641d4577b0 100644 >>>> --- a/target/i386/cpu.c >>>> +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c >>>> @@ -6462,7 +6462,15 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t >>>> index, uint32_t count, >>>> } >>>> *edx = env->features[FEAT_1_EDX]; >>>> if (threads_per_pkg > 1) { >>>> - *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >>>> + /* >>>> + * AMD requires logical processor count, but Intel >>>> needs maximum >>>> + * number of addressable IDs for logical processors per >>>> package. >>>> + */ >>>> + if (cpu->vendor_cpuid_only && IS_AMD_CPU(env)) { >>>> + *ebx |= threads_per_pkg << 16; >>>> + } else { >>>> + *ebx |= 1 << apicid_pkg_offset(&topo_info) << 16; >>>> + } >>>> *edx |= CPUID_HT; >>>> } >>>> if (!cpu->enable_pmu) { >>> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-14 0:36 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-14 1:32 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-14 3:36 ` Zhao Liu 2024-10-17 8:18 ` Xiaoyao Li 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-14 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel > > > On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: > > > > When QEMU is started with: > > > > -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off > > > > -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 > > > > > > > > On Intel platform: > > > > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for > > > > logical processors in the physical package". > > > > > > > > When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a > > > > value of 90 for > > > > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, > > > > executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for > > > > CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. > > > > > > > > As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, > > > > we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 > > > > integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. > > > > > > > > For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology > > > > is disabled, > > > > guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ > > > > (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to > > > > calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get > > > > "90/ (1+63)=1" > > > > as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. > > > > > > It's kernel's bug instead. > > > > > > In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of > > > "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is > > > > > > - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ > > > (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) > > > > > > The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the > > > neartest power-of-two integer instead of itself being the > > > power-of-two. > > > > > > This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit > > > 23-16 of CPUID.1:EBX is: > > > > > > The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is > > > the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing > > > different logical processors in a physical package. > > > > > > What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not > > > smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., > > > > Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my > > 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up > > > > to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with > > Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description > > in sdm > > > > is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of 2 > > in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. > > I think above justification is important. We need to justify our changes > with the fact and correct reason. > > I somehow agree to set EBX[23:16] to a value of power-of-2, because the > 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 > Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec says > > CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] represents the maximum number of addressable IDs > (initial APIC ID) that can be assigned to logical processors in a > physical package. The value may not be the same as the number of > logical processors that are present in the hardware of a physical > package. > > It uses the word "may not". IMO, I don't quite understand your confusion regarding this. I've already explained the meaning of addressable ID, and the spec you referenced also clarifies its significance. The reason for this modification is not because of the two words "may not". Whether it is "be" or "not be" the same as the number of logical processors, the essence is that due to topology, the actual number of initial IDs that can be accommodated in the APIC ID may exceed the number of logical processors. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-14 3:36 ` Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-17 8:18 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-10-17 9:03 ` Zhao Liu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-17 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zhao Liu Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 10/14/2024 11:36 AM, Zhao Liu wrote: >>>> On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >>>>> When QEMU is started with: >>>>> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >>>>> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >>>>> >>>>> On Intel platform: >>>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >>>>> logical processors in the physical package". >>>>> >>>>> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a >>>>> value of 90 for >>>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >>>>> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >>>>> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >>>>> >>>>> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >>>>> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>>>> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >>>>> >>>>> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology >>>>> is disabled, >>>>> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ >>>>> (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >>>>> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get >>>>> "90/ (1+63)=1" >>>>> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >>>> >>>> It's kernel's bug instead. >>>> >>>> In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of >>>> "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is >>>> >>>> - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ >>>> (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) >>>> >>>> The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the >>>> neartest power-of-two integer instead of itself being the >>>> power-of-two. >>>> >>>> This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit >>>> 23-16 of CPUID.1:EBX is: >>>> >>>> The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is >>>> the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing >>>> different logical processors in a physical package. >>>> >>>> What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not >>>> smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., >>> >>> Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my >>> 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up >>> >>> to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with >>> Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description >>> in sdm >>> >>> is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of 2 >>> in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. >> >> I think above justification is important. We need to justify our changes >> with the fact and correct reason. >> >> I somehow agree to set EBX[23:16] to a value of power-of-2, because the >> 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 >> Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec says >> >> CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] represents the maximum number of addressable IDs >> (initial APIC ID) that can be assigned to logical processors in a >> physical package. The value may not be the same as the number of >> logical processors that are present in the hardware of a physical >> package. >> >> It uses the word "may not". > > IMO, I don't quite understand your confusion regarding this. I've already > explained the meaning of addressable ID, and the spec you referenced also > clarifies its significance. The reason for this modification is not > because of the two words "may not". > > Whether it is "be" or "not be" the same as the number of logical > processors, the essence is that due to topology, the actual number of > initial IDs that can be accommodated in the APIC ID may exceed the number > of logical processors. I have the confusion because no matter from SDM: Bit 23-16: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical package* * The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. or from "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec,(Jan 2018, revision 1.1), 1.5.3 "sub ID Extraction Parameters for Inital APIC ID" RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16]) or from "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec,(April 2023, revision 2.0), 1.6.1 Legacy Extraction Algorithm https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/775917/intel-64-architecture-processor-topology-enumeration.pdf "MaximumLogicalProcessorIDsPerPackage" is calculated by rounding CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to nearest power of 2. what I read from them is that EBX[23:16] is a different thing than pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]) and EBX[23:16] doesn't need to be power-of-2, but the patch are trying to make it power-of-2. Then I consult it with Intel internal architect. I was told that EBX[23:16] used to be that software was to round to the next power of 2. However, software had issues a long time ago because applications could then compute the wrong power of 2 based on APIC ID holes or some applications would use it directly (without round it up to power-of-2). So intel became to report exact power-of-2 and this behavior is not documented. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-17 8:18 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-17 9:03 ` Zhao Liu 2024-10-28 16:07 ` Xiaoyao Li 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-17 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 04:18:06PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:18:06 +0800 > From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for > logical processors in the physical package > > On 10/14/2024 11:36 AM, Zhao Liu wrote: > > > > > On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: > > > > > > When QEMU is started with: > > > > > > -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off > > > > > > -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Intel platform: > > > > > > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for > > > > > > logical processors in the physical package". > > > > > > > > > > > > When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a > > > > > > value of 90 for > > > > > > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, > > > > > > executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for > > > > > > CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. > > > > > > > > > > > > As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, > > > > > > we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 > > > > > > integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology > > > > > > is disabled, > > > > > > guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ > > > > > > (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to > > > > > > calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get > > > > > > "90/ (1+63)=1" > > > > > > as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. > > > > > > > > > > It's kernel's bug instead. > > > > > > > > > > In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of > > > > > "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is > > > > > > > > > > - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ > > > > > (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) > > > > > > > > > > The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the > > > > > neartest power-of-two integer instead of itself being the > > > > > power-of-two. > > > > > > > > > > This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit > > > > > 23-16 of CPUID.1:EBX is: > > > > > > > > > > The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is > > > > > the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing > > > > > different logical processors in a physical package. > > > > > > > > > > What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not > > > > > smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., > > > > > > > > Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my > > > > 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up > > > > > > > > to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with > > > > Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description > > > > in sdm > > > > > > > > is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of 2 > > > > in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. > > > > > > I think above justification is important. We need to justify our changes > > > with the fact and correct reason. > > > > > > I somehow agree to set EBX[23:16] to a value of power-of-2, because the > > > 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 > > > Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec says > > > > > > CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] represents the maximum number of addressable IDs > > > (initial APIC ID) that can be assigned to logical processors in a > > > physical package. The value may not be the same as the number of > > > logical processors that are present in the hardware of a physical > > > package. > > > > > > It uses the word "may not". > > > > IMO, I don't quite understand your confusion regarding this. I've already > > explained the meaning of addressable ID, and the spec you referenced also > > clarifies its significance. The reason for this modification is not > > because of the two words "may not". > > > > Whether it is "be" or "not be" the same as the number of logical > > processors, the essence is that due to topology, the actual number of > > initial IDs that can be accommodated in the APIC ID may exceed the number > > of logical processors. > > I have the confusion because no matter from SDM: > > Bit 23-16: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in > this physical package* > > * The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] > is the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing > different logical processors in a physical package. > > or from "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec,(Jan > 2018, revision 1.1), 1.5.3 "sub ID Extraction Parameters for Inital APIC ID" > > RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16]) > > or from "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec,(April > 2023, revision 2.0), 1.6.1 Legacy Extraction Algorithm > > https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/775917/intel-64-architecture-processor-topology-enumeration.pdf > > "MaximumLogicalProcessorIDsPerPackage" is calculated by rounding > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to nearest power of 2. > > what I read from them is that EBX[23:16] is a different thing than > pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]) and EBX[23:16] doesn't need to be power-of-2, but the > patch are trying to make it power-of-2. Yes, no one requires it must be power-of-2. But power-of-2 is just the result, not the reason. The core point is not power-of-2, but is the meaning of EBX[23:16]. Sorry, I have to re-emphasize: Pls remember it's not real number of logical processors per package, and it's "addressable ID", which is the initial APIC ID. The maximum capacity of addressable ID is calculated by the APIC layout, and the final value is “power-of-2”. The calculation by APIC ID or pow2ceil() are mathematically equivalent. That's the way to get addressable IDs. The spec is expressed in such a way to help software understands this value, while the QEMU is designed to emulate hardware behavior. > Then I consult it with Intel internal architect. I was told that EBX[23:16] > used to be that software was to round to the next power of 2. However, > software had issues a long time ago because applications could then compute > the wrong power of 2 based on APIC ID holes or some applications would use > it directly (without round it up to power-of-2). > So intel became to report exact power-of-2 and this behavior is not > documented. Again, I suggest you think in terms of the meaning of number of addressable IDs, it's not a matter of how power-of-2 is calculated, you can choose to calculate number of addressable IDs in other ways, but the final value is still a power of 2. -Zhao ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-17 9:03 ` Zhao Liu @ 2024-10-28 16:07 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-12-03 7:33 ` Zhao Liu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-10-28 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zhao Liu Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 10/17/2024 5:03 PM, Zhao Liu wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 04:18:06PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote: >> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:18:06 +0800 >> From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for >> logical processors in the physical package >> >> On 10/14/2024 11:36 AM, Zhao Liu wrote: >>>>>> On 10/9/2024 11:56 AM, Chuang Xu wrote: >>>>>>> When QEMU is started with: >>>>>>> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >>>>>>> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Intel platform: >>>>>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >>>>>>> logical processors in the physical package". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a >>>>>>> value of 90 for >>>>>>> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >>>>>>> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >>>>>>> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >>>>>>> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >>>>>>> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology >>>>>>> is disabled, >>>>>>> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/ >>>>>>> (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >>>>>>> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get >>>>>>> "90/ (1+63)=1" >>>>>>> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's kernel's bug instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> In 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of >>>>>> "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" [1], it is >>>>>> >>>>>> - SMT_Mask_Width = Log2(RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16])/ >>>>>> (CPUID.(EAX=4,ECX=0):EAX[31:26]) + 1)) >>>>>> >>>>>> The value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] needs to be *rounded* to the >>>>>> neartest power-of-two integer instead of itself being the >>>>>> power-of-two. >>>>>> >>>>>> This also is consistency with the SDM, where the comment for bit >>>>>> 23-16 of CPUID.1:EBX is: >>>>>> >>>>>> The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] is >>>>>> the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing >>>>>> different logical processors in a physical package. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I read from this is, the nearest power-of-2 integer that is not >>>>>> smaller than EBX[23:16] is a different thing than EBX[23:16]. i.e., >>>>> >>>>> Yes, when I read sdm, I also thought it was a kernel bug. But on my >>>>> 192ht spr host, the value of CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] was indeed rounded up >>>>> >>>>> to the nearest power of 2 by the hardware. After communicating with >>>>> Intel technical support staff, we thought that perhaps the description >>>>> in sdm >>>>> >>>>> is not so accurate, and rounding up CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] to the power of 2 >>>>> in qemu may be more in line with the hardware behavior. >>>> >>>> I think above justification is important. We need to justify our changes >>>> with the fact and correct reason. >>>> >>>> I somehow agree to set EBX[23:16] to a value of power-of-2, because the >>>> 1.5.3 "Sub ID Extraction Parameters for initial APIC ID" of "Intel 64 >>>> Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec says >>>> >>>> CPUID.1:EBX[23:16] represents the maximum number of addressable IDs >>>> (initial APIC ID) that can be assigned to logical processors in a >>>> physical package. The value may not be the same as the number of >>>> logical processors that are present in the hardware of a physical >>>> package. >>>> >>>> It uses the word "may not". >>> >>> IMO, I don't quite understand your confusion regarding this. I've already >>> explained the meaning of addressable ID, and the spec you referenced also >>> clarifies its significance. The reason for this modification is not >>> because of the two words "may not". >>> >>> Whether it is "be" or "not be" the same as the number of logical >>> processors, the essence is that due to topology, the actual number of >>> initial IDs that can be accommodated in the APIC ID may exceed the number >>> of logical processors. >> >> I have the confusion because no matter from SDM: >> >> Bit 23-16: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in >> this physical package* >> >> * The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16] >> is the number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing >> different logical processors in a physical package. >> >> or from "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec,(Jan >> 2018, revision 1.1), 1.5.3 "sub ID Extraction Parameters for Inital APIC ID" >> >> RoundToNearestPof2(CPUID.1:EBX[23:16]) >> >> or from "Intel 64 Architecture Processor Topology Enumeration" spec,(April >> 2023, revision 2.0), 1.6.1 Legacy Extraction Algorithm >> >> https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/775917/intel-64-architecture-processor-topology-enumeration.pdf >> >> "MaximumLogicalProcessorIDsPerPackage" is calculated by rounding >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to nearest power of 2. >> >> what I read from them is that EBX[23:16] is a different thing than >> pow2ceil(EBX[23:16]) and EBX[23:16] doesn't need to be power-of-2, but the >> patch are trying to make it power-of-2. > > Yes, no one requires it must be power-of-2. But power-of-2 is just > the result, not the reason. > > The core point is not power-of-2, but is the meaning of EBX[23:16]. > > Sorry, I have to re-emphasize: > > Pls remember it's not real number of logical processors per package, > and it's "addressable ID", which is the initial APIC ID. The maximum > capacity of addressable ID is calculated by the APIC layout, and the > final value is “power-of-2”. The calculation by APIC ID or pow2ceil() > are mathematically equivalent. That's the way to get addressable IDs. > > The spec is expressed in such a way to help software understands this > value, while the QEMU is designed to emulate hardware behavior. To me, what SDM describes are ambiguous and misleading. It has - EBX[23:16]: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical package. - The nearest power-of-2 integer that is not smaller than EBX[23:16]: The number of unique initial APIC IDs reserved for addressing different logical processors in a physical package. To me, the latter is much more equal to what you called "the maximum capacity of addressable ID". Anyway, as what SDM describes are confusing (at least to me), and based on the real value modern Intel CPUs report, I won't argue against it anymore. However, back to the patch, I think we cannot change it as this patch directly. Instead, we need a compat_props for the changed behavior, because this isn't a bug fix and it introduces guest-visible differences. For ancient Intel CPUs, EBX[23:16] did represent the number of Logical processor per package. I believe this should be the reason why QEMU implemented it as is: - on SDM version 013, EBX[23:16]: Number of logical processors per physical processor; two for the Pentium 4 processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology. - on SDM version 015, it changed to: Number of initial APIC IDs reserved for this physical package. Normally, this is the number of logical processors per physical package. - on SDM version 016, it changed to: Maximum number of logical processors in this physical package. - finally, starting from SDM version 026, it changed to what reads now: Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical package. >> Then I consult it with Intel internal architect. I was told that EBX[23:16] >> used to be that software was to round to the next power of 2. However, >> software had issues a long time ago because applications could then compute >> the wrong power of 2 based on APIC ID holes or some applications would use >> it directly (without round it up to power-of-2). >> So intel became to report exact power-of-2 and this behavior is not >> documented. > > Again, I suggest you think in terms of the meaning of number of > addressable IDs, it's not a matter of how power-of-2 is calculated, you > can choose to calculate number of addressable IDs in other ways, but > the final value is still a power of 2. > > -Zhao > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-28 16:07 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-12-03 7:33 ` Zhao Liu 2024-12-03 15:04 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-12-03 15:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-12-03 7:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel > However, back to the patch, I think we cannot change it as this patch > directly. Instead, we need a compat_props for the changed behavior, because > this isn't a bug fix and it introduces guest-visible differences. This is a fix, not a new feature, so compat_props is not needed. > For ancient Intel CPUs, EBX[23:16] did represent the number of Logical > processor per package. I believe this should be the reason why QEMU > implemented it as is: > > - on SDM version 013, EBX[23:16]: Number of logical processors per > physical processor; two for the Pentium 4 processor supporting > Hyper-Threading Technology. > > - on SDM version 015, it changed to: Number of initial APIC IDs reserved > for this physical package. Normally, this is the number of logical > processors per physical package. > > - on SDM version 016, it changed to: Maximum number of logical processors > in this physical package. > > - finally, starting from SDM version 026, it changed to what reads now: > Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical > package. And this is an architecturally defined CPUID, so SDM ensures backward compatibility. Regards, Zhao ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-12-03 7:33 ` Zhao Liu @ 2024-12-03 15:04 ` Xiaoyao Li 2024-12-03 15:35 ` Zhao Liu 2024-12-03 15:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-12-03 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zhao Liu Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On 12/3/2024 3:33 PM, Zhao Liu wrote: >> However, back to the patch, I think we cannot change it as this patch >> directly. Instead, we need a compat_props for the changed behavior, because >> this isn't a bug fix and it introduces guest-visible differences. > > This is a fix, not a new feature, so compat_props is not needed. Fix what? QEMU behaves as it for so many years and if the guest OS uses the algorithm recommended by SDM, there is no issue. >> For ancient Intel CPUs, EBX[23:16] did represent the number of Logical >> processor per package. I believe this should be the reason why QEMU >> implemented it as is: >> >> - on SDM version 013, EBX[23:16]: Number of logical processors per >> physical processor; two for the Pentium 4 processor supporting >> Hyper-Threading Technology. >> >> - on SDM version 015, it changed to: Number of initial APIC IDs reserved >> for this physical package. Normally, this is the number of logical >> processors per physical package. >> >> - on SDM version 016, it changed to: Maximum number of logical processors >> in this physical package. >> >> - finally, starting from SDM version 026, it changed to what reads now: >> Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical >> package. > > And this is an architecturally defined CPUID, so SDM ensures backward > compatibility. SDM ensure the backwards compatibility by recommending to round the number up to the power-of 2 when using it to calculate the topology with legacy method. > Regards, > Zhao > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-12-03 15:04 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-12-03 15:35 ` Zhao Liu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-12-03 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xiaoyao Li Cc: Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 11:04:12PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote: > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:04:12 +0800 > From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for > logical processors in the physical package > > On 12/3/2024 3:33 PM, Zhao Liu wrote: > > > However, back to the patch, I think we cannot change it as this patch > > > directly. Instead, we need a compat_props for the changed behavior, because > > > this isn't a bug fix and it introduces guest-visible differences. > > > > This is a fix, not a new feature, so compat_props is not needed. > > Fix what? QEMU behaves as it for so many years and if the guest OS uses the > algorithm recommended by SDM, there is no issue. I've spent a lot time to explain why current behavior doesn't match the SDM and real machine's implementation. > > > For ancient Intel CPUs, EBX[23:16] did represent the number of Logical > > > processor per package. I believe this should be the reason why QEMU > > > implemented it as is: > > > > > > - on SDM version 013, EBX[23:16]: Number of logical processors per > > > physical processor; two for the Pentium 4 processor supporting > > > Hyper-Threading Technology. > > > > > > - on SDM version 015, it changed to: Number of initial APIC IDs reserved > > > for this physical package. Normally, this is the number of logical > > > processors per physical package. > > > > > > - on SDM version 016, it changed to: Maximum number of logical processors > > > in this physical package. > > > > > > - finally, starting from SDM version 026, it changed to what reads now: > > > Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical > > > package. > > > > And this is an architecturally defined CPUID, so SDM ensures backward > > compatibility. > > SDM ensure the backwards compatibility by recommending to round the number > up to the power-of 2 when using it to calculate the topology with legacy > method. Please, *always* refer the latest SDM. Regarding historical changes, older machines didn't have spare APIC ID slots, so the actual number is the same as the maximum number of addressable IDs. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-12-03 7:33 ` Zhao Liu 2024-12-03 15:04 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-12-03 15:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Daniel P. Berrangé @ 2024-12-03 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zhao Liu Cc: Xiaoyao Li, Chuang Xu, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin, qemu-devel On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 03:33:41PM +0800, Zhao Liu wrote: > > However, back to the patch, I think we cannot change it as this patch > > directly. Instead, we need a compat_props for the changed behavior, because > > this isn't a bug fix and it introduces guest-visible differences. > > This is a fix, not a new feature, so compat_props is not needed. Note from QEMU's POV, whether or not a change requires use of compat_props is NOT determined by whether it is a bugfix or feature. The decision is driven by whether a running guest OS will continue to function correctly when it is live migrated between 2 QEMUs, before/after the commit. If the commit breaks a running guest, then toggling usage of the changed code based on compat_props is required. Sometimes we can get away without this for bug fixes, other bug fixes not so lucky. My gut feeling is in this case we're probably safe-ish without compat_props, as topology is the kind of info that's read once at OS startup and then cached until reboot. So changing the logical processor per package behind a running guest (probably) won't cause trouble. One of the i386 maintainers should sanity check though, as this code isn't my normal area of expertize > > > For ancient Intel CPUs, EBX[23:16] did represent the number of Logical > > processor per package. I believe this should be the reason why QEMU > > implemented it as is: > > > > - on SDM version 013, EBX[23:16]: Number of logical processors per > > physical processor; two for the Pentium 4 processor supporting > > Hyper-Threading Technology. > > > > - on SDM version 015, it changed to: Number of initial APIC IDs reserved > > for this physical package. Normally, this is the number of logical > > processors per physical package. > > > > - on SDM version 016, it changed to: Maximum number of logical processors > > in this physical package. > > > > - finally, starting from SDM version 026, it changed to what reads now: > > Maximum number of addressable IDs for logical processors in this physical > > package. > > And this is an architecturally defined CPUID, so SDM ensures backward > compatibility. > > Regards, > Zhao > > With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-10-09 3:56 [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package Chuang Xu ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2024-10-12 8:21 ` Xiaoyao Li @ 2024-12-03 7:36 ` Zhao Liu 2024-12-03 7:29 ` Chuang Xu 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Zhao Liu @ 2024-12-03 7:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chuang Xu Cc: qemu-devel, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin Hi Chuang, Could I pick this fix in my later series (with another overflow fix)? I can help you push this fix forward :-). Regards, Zhao On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 11:56:38AM +0800, Chuang Xu wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:56:38 +0800 > From: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> > Subject: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical > processors in the physical package > X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.39.3 (Apple Git-146) > > When QEMU is started with: > -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off > -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 > > On Intel platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for > logical processors in the physical package". > > When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of 90 for > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, > executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for > CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. > > As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, > we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 > integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. > > For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is disabled, > guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to > calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/(1+63)=1" > as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. > > And on AMD platform: > CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current > result meets our expectation. > > So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer > only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. > > Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> > Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> > Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> > Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical processors in the physical package 2024-12-03 7:36 ` Zhao Liu @ 2024-12-03 7:29 ` Chuang Xu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Chuang Xu @ 2024-12-03 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zhao Liu Cc: qemu-devel, pbonzini, imammedo, xieyongji, chaiwen.cc, qemu-stable, Guixiong Wei, Yipeng Yin Hi Zhao, Thank you for your message. I appreciate your willingness to help push this fix. On 12/3/24 下午3:36, Zhao Liu wrote: > Hi Chuang, > > Could I pick this fix in my later series (with another overflow fix)? > I can help you push this fix forward :-). > > Regards, > Zhao > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 11:56:38AM +0800, Chuang Xu wrote: >> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:56:38 +0800 >> From: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> >> Subject: [PATCH v6] i386/cpu: fixup number of addressable IDs for logical >> processors in the physical package >> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.39.3 (Apple Git-146) >> >> When QEMU is started with: >> -cpu host,migratable=on,host-cache-info=on,l3-cache=off >> -smp 180,sockets=2,dies=1,cores=45,threads=2 >> >> On Intel platform: >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "max number of addressable IDs for >> logical processors in the physical package". >> >> When executing "cpuid -1 -l 1 -r" in the guest, we obtain a value of 90 for >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16], whereas the expected value is 128. Additionally, >> executing "cpuid -1 -l 4 -r" in the guest yields a value of 63 for >> CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26], which matches the expected result. >> >> As (1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) rounds up to the nearest power-of-2 integer, >> we'd beter round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 >> integer too. Otherwise we may encounter unexpected results in guest. >> >> For example, when QEMU is started with CLI above and xtopology is disabled, >> guest kernel 5.15.120 uses CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16]/(1+CPUID.04H.EAX[31:26]) to >> calculate threads-per-core in detect_ht(). Then guest will get "90/(1+63)=1" >> as the result, even though threads-per-core should actually be 2. >> >> And on AMD platform: >> CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] is defined as "Logical processor count". Current >> result meets our expectation. >> >> So let us round up CPUID.01H.EBX[23:16] to the nearest power-of-2 integer >> only for Intel platform to solve the unexpected result. >> >> Reviewed-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> >> Acked-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> >> Signed-off-by: Guixiong Wei <weiguixiong@bytedance.com> >> Signed-off-by: Yipeng Yin <yinyipeng@bytedance.com> >> Signed-off-by: Chuang Xu <xuchuangxclwt@bytedance.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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