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From: Tao Su <tao1.su@linux.intel.com>
To: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, xiaoyao.li@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] target/i386: add AVX10 feature and AVX10 version property
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 22:05:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyI9P1ftFOTUhDzb@linux.bj.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZyIy4OGSGPhAZutK@intel.com>

On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 09:21:36PM +0800, Zhao Liu wrote:
> > > > Introduce avx10-version property so that avx10 version can be controlled
> > > > by user and cpu model. Per spec, avx10 version can never be 0, the default
> > > > value of avx10-version is set to 0 to determine whether it is specified by
> > > > user.
> > > 
> > > The default value of 0 does not reflect whether the user has set it to 0.
> > > According to the description here, the spec clearly prohibits 0, so
> > > should we report an error when the user sets it to 0?
> > > 
> > > If so, it might be better to change the default value to -1 and adjust
> > > based on the host's support.
> > > 
> > 
> > If user sets version to 0, it will directly use reported version, this
> > should be a more neat and intuitive way?
> 
> The code implementation is actually similar for different initial
> values. And about this:
> 
> > If user sets version to 0, it will directly use reported version", 
> 
> It's defining a special behavior for the API, which is based on the
> special 0 value, and there needs to be documentation to let the user
> know that 0 will be considered legal as well as that it will be quietly
> overridden... But AFAIK there doesn't seem to be any place to add
> documentation for the property ...
> 
> There may be similar problems with -1, e.g. if the user writes -1, there
> is no way to report an error for the user's behavior. But it's better
> than 0. After all, no one would think that a version of -1 is correct.
> Topology IDs have been initialized to -1 to include the user's 0 value
> in the check.

Thanks for your explanation, but I really think the users who set
avx10-version should also know avx10.0 doesn’t exist, so using 0 is same
as -1…

To solve the initial value issue fundamentally, maybe we can add get/set
callbacks when adding avx10-version property? It should be simpler to
limit what users set.

[ ... ]

> > > @@ -7674,13 +7682,21 @@ static bool x86_cpu_filter_features(X86CPU *cpu, bool verbose)
> > >                                      &eax_0, &ebx_0, &ecx_0, &edx_0);
> > >          uint8_t version = ebx_0 & 0xff;
> > > 
> > > -        if (version < env->avx10_version) {
> > > +        if (!env->avx10_version) {
> > > +            env->avx10_version = version;
> > 
> > x86_cpu_filter_features() is not a good place to assign avx10_version, I
> > still tend to set it in max_x86_cpu_realize().
> 
> It's not proper to get the host's version when AVX10 cannot be enabled,
> even maybe host doesn't support AVX10.
> 
> As you found out earlier, max_x86_cpu_realize doesn't know if AVX10 can
> be enabled or not.
> 

How about moving to x86_cpu_expand_features()? We can set when checking
cpu->max_features.

[ ... ]


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-29 15:18 [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AVX10.1 CPUID support and GraniteRapids-v2 model Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 1/8] target/i386: cpu: set correct supported XCR0 features for TCG Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  2:56   ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 2/8] target/i386: do not rely on ExtSaveArea for accelerator-supported XCR0 bits Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  3:50   ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 3/8] target/i386: return bool from x86_cpu_filter_features Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  5:19   ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 4/8] target/i386: add AVX10 feature and AVX10 version property Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  3:05   ` Tao Su
2024-10-30  8:09     ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-30  8:44   ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-30  9:37     ` Tao Su
2024-10-30 13:21       ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-30 14:05         ` Tao Su [this message]
2024-10-30 15:55           ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-31  4:39             ` Tao Su
2024-10-31  5:52               ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-31  6:07                 ` Tao Su
2024-10-31  7:12                 ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-31  7:18               ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-31  7:19                 ` Tao Su
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 5/8] target/i386: add CPUID.24 features for AVX10 Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  8:50   ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 6/8] target/i386: Add feature dependencies " Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 7/8] target/i386: Add AVX512 state when AVX10 is supported Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-29 20:11   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  8:54   ` Zhao Liu
2024-10-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 8/8] target/i386: Introduce GraniteRapids-v2 model Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AVX10.1 CPUID support and " Tao Su
2024-10-30  8:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  8:52     ` Tao Su

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