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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Prasad Pandit <ppandit@redhat.com>,
	Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Prasad Pandit <pjp@fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] migration/postcopy: magic value for postcopy channel
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:57:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zyzxihj37-pfTQWx@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZyzoGvOaybHs4uMl@x1n>

On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 11:17:30AM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 12:33:17PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> I'll comment on a few examples above, which I think some of them, even if
> handshake is ready, may still need mgmt layers to involve..
> 
> Multifd and postcopy are the two major features, and they, IMHO, all better
> need user involvements..
> 
> Multifd needs it because it relies on the channel being able to provide >1
> channels.  It means "| nc XXX > file" can stop working if we turn it on by
> default silently.

NB, my point was referring to a hypothetical alternative history,
where we had the handshake at the QEMU level from day 1. That
would neccessarily imply a bi-directional channel, so the 'nc'
use case would already have been  out of scope. That said, QEMU
could identify whether the channel it was told to use was
bi-directional or not, and thus not try to do multifd over
a non-socket transport.

So the general point still holds - if QEMU had this protocol
negotiation phase built-in, there would be more flexiblity in
introducing new features without layers above needing changes,
for every single one, just a subset.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-07 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-29 15:09 [PATCH 0/5] Allow to enable multifd and postcopy migration together Prasad Pandit
2024-10-29 15:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: move macros to multifd header Prasad Pandit
2024-10-29 15:09 ` [PATCH 2/5] migration/postcopy: magic value for postcopy channel Prasad Pandit
     [not found]   ` <ZyTnBwpOwXcHGGPJ@x1n>
2024-11-04 12:32     ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-04 17:18       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-05 11:19         ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-05 13:00           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-06 12:19             ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-06 13:11               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-07 12:05                 ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-07 12:11                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-07 12:33                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-07 16:17                     ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 16:57                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-11-07 17:45                         ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 12:37                           ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-08 13:25                             ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-06 16:00               ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 11:52                 ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-07 15:56                   ` Peter Xu
2024-10-29 15:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] migration: remove multifd check with postcopy Prasad Pandit
     [not found]   ` <ZyTnWYyHlrJUYQRB@x1n>
2024-11-04 12:23     ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-04 16:52       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-05  9:50         ` Prasad Pandit
2024-10-29 15:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] migration: refactor ram_save_target_page functions Prasad Pandit
     [not found]   ` <ZyToBbvfWkIZ_40W@x1n>
2024-11-04 11:56     ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-04 17:00       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-05 10:01         ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-05 13:01           ` Peter Xu
2024-10-29 15:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] migration: enable multifd and postcopy together Prasad Pandit
2024-11-04 17:48   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-05 11:54     ` Prasad Pandit
2024-11-05 16:55       ` Peter Xu

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