From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 11/16] migration: cpr-transfer mode
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:04:29 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZzZJvTldpe3D4EO5@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51967cb2-05ec-485b-a639-8ff58d565604@oracle.com>
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 01:36:00PM -0500, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 11/13/2024 4:58 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 01, 2024 at 06:47:50AM -0700, Steve Sistare wrote:
> > > Add the cpr-transfer migration mode. Usage:
> > > qemu-system-$arch -machine anon-alloc=memfd ...
> > >
> > > start new QEMU with "-incoming <uri-1> -cpr-uri <uri-2>"
> > >
> > > Issue commands to old QEMU:
> > > migrate_set_parameter mode cpr-transfer
> > > migrate_set_parameter cpr-uri <uri-2>
> > > migrate -d <uri-1>
> >
> > QMP command "migrate" already allows taking MigrationChannel lists, cpr can
> > be the 2nd supported channel besides "main".
> >
> > I apologize on only noticing this until now.. I wished the incoming side
> > can do the same already (which also takes 'MigrationChannel') if monitors
> > init can be moved earlier, and if precreate worked out. If not, we should
> > still consider doing that on source, because cpr-uri isn't usable on dest
> > anyway.. so they need to be treated separately even now.
> >
> > Then after we make the monitor code run earlier in the future we could
> > introduce that to incoming side too, obsoleting -cpr-uri there.
>
> I have already been shot down on precreate and monitors init, so we are
> left with specifying a "cpr" channel on the outgoing side, and -cpr-uri
> on the incoming side. That will confuse users, will require more implementation
> and specification work than you perhaps realize to explain this to users,
What is the specification work? Can you elaborate?
> and only gets us halfway to your desired end point of specifying everything
> using channels. I don't like that plan!
>
> If we ever get the ability to open the monitor early, then we can implement
> a complete and clean solution using channels and declare the other options
> obsolete.
The sender side doesn't need to wait for destination side to be ready?
Dest side isn't a reason to me on how we should make sender side work if
they're totally separate anyway. Dest requires -cpr-uri because we don't
yet have a choice.
Is the only concern about code changes? I'm expecting this change is far
less controversial comparing to many others in this series, even if I
confess that may still contain some diff. They should hopefully be
straightforward, unlike many of the changes elsewhere in the series.
If you prefer not writting that patch, I am OK, and I can write one patch
on top of your series after it lands if that is OK for you. I still want to
have this there when release 10.0 if I didn't misunderstood anything, so
I'll be able to remove cpr-uri directly in that patch too.
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-14 19:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-01 13:47 [PATCH V3 00/16] Live update: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 01/16] machine: anon-alloc option Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 14:06 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 10:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 10:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 17:38 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-04 19:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:14 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 20:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 20:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:56 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-04 21:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-06 20:12 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-06 20:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-06 20:59 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-06 21:21 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 14:03 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 14:04 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 18:13 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:32 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 16:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 17:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 13:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 16:02 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 16:40 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 11:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 13:43 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 14:14 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:32 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 14:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:01 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 13:56 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 14:37 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:07 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 15:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 02/16] migration: cpr-state Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:36 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 03/16] physmem: preserve ram blocks for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 04/16] hostmem-memfd: preserve " Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 05/16] migration: SCM_RIGHTS for QEMUFile Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:54 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:34 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 06/16] migration: VMSTATE_FD Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:55 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 07/16] migration: cpr-transfer save and load Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 08/16] migration: cpr-uri parameter Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 09/16] migration: cpr-uri option Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 10/16] migration: split qmp_migrate Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 21:11 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:33 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 11/16] migration: cpr-transfer mode Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 21:58 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:36 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-14 19:04 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-11-19 19:50 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 20:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 20:32 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 20:51 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:03 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 21:29 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:41 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 21:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:51 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-20 9:38 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-20 16:12 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-20 16:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 12/16] tests/migration-test: memory_backend Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:19 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 13/16] tests/qtest: defer connection Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:36 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-14 18:45 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-13 22:53 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:31 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 14/16] tests/migration-test: " Steve Sistare
2024-11-14 12:46 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 15/16] migration-test: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 16/16] migration: cpr-transfer documentation Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:02 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:31 ` Steven Sistare
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