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From: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Richard W . M . Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] rng-builtin: add an RNG backend that uses qemu_guest_getrandom()
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a19fde61-159e-45da-f652-1dbc1f94b9ee@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190510153227.GO7671@redhat.com>

On 10/05/2019 17:32, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 02:37:41PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
>> On 10/05/2019 14:27, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com> writes:
>>> The new rng-builtin is considerably simpler than both rng-random and
>>> rng-egd.  Moreover, it just works, whereas rng-random is limited to
>>> CONFIG_POSIX, and rng-egd needs egd running (which I suspect basically
>>> nobody does).  Have we considered deprecating these two backends in
>>> favor of rng-builtin?
>>
>> I have several bugzilla involving these backends: as there are blocking, the
>> virtio-rng device in the guest can hang, or crash during hot-unplug. From my
>> point of view, life would be easier without them...
> 
> Are you sure about that ?
> 
> The EGD impl looks like it is requesting entropy in an async manner.

The virtio-rng driver waits until it receives enough entropy from the 
RNG backend while a mutex is taken.

If the EGD daemon doesn't provide enough data to the RNG backend, 
virtio-rng driver can hang.

It's easy to have if we start EGD backend with a socket in server,nowait 
mode and no EGD daemon connects to the port.

Thanks,
Laurent



      reply	other threads:[~2019-05-10 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-10 10:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] rng-builtin: add an RNG backend that uses qemu_guest_getrandom() Laurent Vivier
2019-05-10 11:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-10 12:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 12:37   ` Laurent Vivier
2019-05-10 15:19     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-13 16:40       ` Amit Shah
2019-05-10 15:32     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-10 15:56       ` Laurent Vivier [this message]

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