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From: Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] s390x/pv: Introduce a s390_pv_check() helper for runtime
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 15:52:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6aa35a8-c3fe-47d8-3a80-38cb8d94fdba@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4ec20fc-5b68-ee04-c387-4e87428d6c7f@linux.ibm.com>

On 1/9/23 15:31, Janosch Frank wrote:
> On 1/9/23 14:53, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>> On 1/9/23 14:45, Janosch Frank wrote:
>>> On 1/9/23 14:30, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>>>> On 1/9/23 10:49, Janosch Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 1/9/23 10:27, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/9/23 10:04, Janosch Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/6/23 08:53, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>>>>>>>> From: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a secure kernel is started in a non-protected VM, the OS will hang
>>>>>>>> during boot without giving a proper error message to the user.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the time you see nothing in the console because libvirt is too slow. If you start the VM in paused mode, attach a console and then resume it, then you'll see a nice error message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you wait long enough, the VM fails to mount / and falls into the dracut
>>>>>> initrams.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the feeling that we're not talking about the same thing here.>
>>>>      > A PV VM always starts out as a non-PV VM and is put into PV mode via two diag308 subcodes (8 & 10). ALL PV subcodes (8 - 10) are spec exceptions if the host isn't enabled for PV.
>>>>
>>>> The corner case this patch is trying to address is for a PV-enabled host,
>>>> a secure enabled OS and !PV-enabled QEMU.
>>>>
>>>> Please run this command on a secure disk image :
>>>>
>>>>       qemu-system-s390x -M s390-ccw-virtio -accel kvm -drive file=<file>,if=virtio,format=qcow2 -nographic -nodefaults -serial mon:stdio
>>>>
>>>> and tell me what you get.
>>>>
>>>
>>> qemu-system-s390x -M s390-ccw-virtio -accel kvm -drive file=u2204.qcow2,if=virtio,format=qcow2 -nographic -nodefaults -serial mon:stdio
>>> LOADPARM=[        ]
>>> Using virtio-blk.
>>> Using SCSI scheme.
>>> .............................................................................................................................
>>> Secure unpack facility is not available
>>
>> Yes. That's with a !PV-enabled host. Correct ?
>>
>> Can you try with prot_virt=1 on the host please ?
> 
> With prot_virt=1 it boots until it doesn't find the file system (at
> least if you give it a bit more memory than the standard 256MB):
> 
> qemu-system-s390x -M s390-ccw-virtio -accel kvm -drive
> file=u2204.qcow2,if=virtio,format=qcow2 -nographic -nodefaults -serial
> mon:stdio -m 4096
> [Linux boot stuff]
> ALERT!  /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0000-part1 does not exist.  Dropping
> to a shell!
> 

I.e. it boots into secure mode just fine.

Now if you add iommu_platform=true to the device then it'll even boot 
from disk.

So we'd rather need an error message if you attach a device without the 
iommu being set to true. The whole topic of PV iommu problems has a few 
windings which I don't fully want to bring to electronic paper right now.

Either you start a secure guest that has devices with manual iommu 
entries or you go the launch security route and let libvirt/qemu handle 
it for you.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-09 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06  7:53 [PATCH v2 0/4] s390x/pv: Improve protected VM support Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-06  7:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] s390x/pv: Implement a CGS check helper Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09 13:34   ` Thomas Huth
2023-01-09 13:57     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09 14:12       ` Thomas Huth
2023-01-09 14:28         ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-06  7:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] s390x/pv: Check for support on the host Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09  8:45   ` Janosch Frank
2023-01-09  9:44     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09 10:49       ` Janosch Frank
2023-01-06  7:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] s390x/pv: Introduce a s390_pv_check() helper for runtime Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09  9:04   ` Janosch Frank
2023-01-09  9:27     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09  9:49       ` Janosch Frank
2023-01-09 13:30         ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09 13:45           ` Janosch Frank
2023-01-09 13:53             ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-09 14:31               ` Janosch Frank
2023-01-09 14:52                 ` Janosch Frank [this message]
2023-01-09 15:24                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-01-06  7:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] s390x/pv: Move check on hugepage under s390_pv_guest_check() Cédric Le Goater

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