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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Ben Widawsky" <ben.widawsky@intel.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"Francisco Iglesias" <frasse.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Chris Browy" <cbrowy@avery-design.com>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>, "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Memory region accesses where .valid.min_access_size < .impl.min_access_size
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 15:32:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a71cf47e-6db8-bcf1-16f1-e972f81d1740@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210513140018.00004560@Huawei.com>

On 5/13/21 3:00 PM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2021 14:36:27 +0200
> Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/13/21 2:23 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 12:49, Jonathan Cameron
>>> <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> wrote:  
>>>> My initial suggestion was to fix this by adding the relatively
>>>> simple code needed in the driver to implement byte read / write,
>>>> but Ben pointed at the QEMU docs - docs/devel/memory.rst which
>>>> says
>>>> "
>>>> .impl.min_access_size, .impl.max_access_size define the access sizes
>>>>    (in bytes) supported by the *implementation*; other access sizes will be
>>>>    emulated using the ones available. For example a 4-byte write will be
>>>>    emulated using four 1-byte writes, if .impl.max_access_size = 1.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> This isn't true when we have the situation where
>>>> .valid.min_access_size < .imp.min_access_size
>>>>
>>>> So change the docs or try to make this work?  
>>
>> See also this patch from Francisco:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg636935.html
>>
>> And full unaligned access support from Andrew:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg461247.html
> 
> Thanks - that's very similar to what I was carrying, but I think it
> only covers the read case.  That's backed up by the comment:
> /* XXX: Can't do this hack for writes */

You might use the "MMIO test device" to write your tests, see:
https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg730716.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg730720.html

I have a branch tagged v2, need to rebase it and post...

>>> I don't (yet) have a view on what the in-principle right thing
>>> should be, but in practice: how many devices do we have which
>>> set .valid.min_access_size < .imp.min_access_size ? If we want
>>> to change the semantics we'd need to look at those to see if they
>>> need to be adjusted (or if they're just currently buggy and would
>>> be fixed by the change).
> 
> I'm only aware of this one CXL emulated device (+ the proposed code in
> the ADC in the above patch set).  For the CXL device, working around
> this limitation is straight forward if that's the right option
> + updating the docs to slightly reduced chances of this being hit in
> the future.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 11:47 RFC: Memory region accesses where .valid.min_access_size < .impl.min_access_size Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-13 12:23 ` Peter Maydell
2021-05-13 12:36   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-05-13 13:00     ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-13 13:32       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2021-05-14  2:05       ` Andrew Jeffery
2021-05-14  9:39         ` Jonathan Cameron

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