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From: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Wei Huang <wei@redhat.com>, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger.pro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 16:09:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8485329-0986-c99b-ad64-ec5af0a987b8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee204f5f-600f-2425-a1ff-0418b4611e96@redhat.com>

Hi Laszlo,

On 05/24/2018 03:59 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 05/24/18 15:07, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On 24 May 2018 at 13:59, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 05/24/18 11:11, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> Won't it also break a guest which is just Linux loaded not via
>>>> firmware which is an aarch32 kernel without LPAE support?
>>>
>>> Does such a thing exist? (I honestly have no clue.)
>>
>> Yes, it does; LPAE isn't a mandatory kernel config option.
>> This is why we have the machine 'highmem' option, so that
>> we can run on those kernels by not putting anything above
>> the 4G boundary. Looking back at the history on that, we
>> opted at the time for "default to highmem on, and if you're
>> running an non-lpae kernel you need to turn it off manually".
> 
> Ah, OK, I didn't know that.
> 
>> So we can handle those kernels by just not putting ECAM
>> above 4G if highmem is false.
> 
> The problem is we can have a combination of 32-bit UEFI firmware (which
> certainly lacks LPAE) and a 32-bit kernel which supports LPAE.

Is it what happens with the FW you provided to me? There is no LPAE in it?

> Previously, you wouldn't specify highmem=off, and things would just work
> -- the firmware would simply ignore the >=4GB MMIO apertur  e, and use the
> 32-bit MMIO aperture only (and use the sole 32-bit ECAM). The kernel
> could then use both low and high MMIO apertures, however (I gather?).
>   
> The difference with "high ECAM" is that it is *moved* (not *added*), so
> the 32-bit firmware is left with nothing for config space access.
Yes it is not possible to declare several disjoint ECAM spaces for a
single segment I think, hence the move.

 For
> booting the same combination as above, you are suddenly forced to add
> highmem=off, just to keep the ECAM low -- and that, while it keeps the
> firmware happy, prevents the LPAE-capable kernel from using the high
> MMIO aperture.
> 
> So I think "highmem_ecam" should be computed like this:
> 
>   highmem_ecam = highmem_ecam_machtype_default &&
>                  highmem &&
>                  (!firmware_loaded || aarch64);

Looks sensible to me

Thanks

Eric
> 
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-24 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-23 16:03 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] hw/arm/virt: Add a new 256MB ECAM region Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] hw/arm/virt: Add virt-3.0 machine type Eric Auger
2018-05-23 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-23 20:40   ` Auger Eric
2018-05-23 20:52     ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-23 20:55       ` Auger Eric
2018-05-24  9:11       ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-24 12:59         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 13:07           ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-24 13:10             ` Auger Eric
2018-05-24 13:59             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 14:09               ` Auger Eric [this message]
2018-05-24 16:58                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 14:14               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-05-24 17:20                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 19:26                   ` Auger Eric

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