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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Hanna Reitz" <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Beraldo Leal" <bleal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] tests: run python tests under the build/tests/venv environment
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 18:07:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8b3d981-dbd2-5ae9-6601-c661d3899451@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFn=p-ZHW31EnhgUt5uBcnnAEZ0XNZEgxq=pyPHnDShqcGGGCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/13/22 17:39, John Snow wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2022, 6:21 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com 
> <mailto:pbonzini@redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 5/13/22 02:06, John Snow wrote:
>      > The only downside I am really frowning at is that I will have to
>      > replicate some "update the venv if it's outdated" logic that is
>     usually
>      > handled by the Make system in the venv bootstrapper. Still, I
>     think it's
>      > probably the only way to hit all of the requirements here without
>     trying
>      > to concoct a fairly complex Makefile.
>      >
>      > any thoughts? If not, I'll just move on to trying to hack up that
>      > version next instead.
> 
>     I would not even bother with keeping the venv up to date.  Just
>     initialize
> 
> I'm worried about this idea being very inconvenient for iterative 
> development of the python code.

Wouldn't "-e" mostly avoid the inconvenience?

> I'm not sure this makes sense. python/qemu will continue to exist 
> in-tree and will only ever be "internal" in that sense. It won't be 
> something you can wholesale install from pip.
>
> i.e. I plan to continue to break off pieces and upstream them, but I 
> intend to leave several modules as internal only.

Oh, that's what I was missing.  I thought long term all of it would come 
from pip.  But anyway...

> So I'm not sure "internal" vs "pip" makes sense config-wise, it's 
> intended to be a mixture of both, really.

... then neither "system" nor "pip" would not cover the parts of 
"python-qemu" that are always internal, i.e. currently only 
"python-qemu-qmp".  And after

  $python -m venv venv/

you would have

  $python -m pip install -e python/

(That's probably a better way to invoke a pip that's related to $python, 
at least until the venv exists).

By the way, where would you put the python-qemu-qmp submodule?

> But, I suppose this is how you'd like to address different venv setup 
> behaviors to accommodate spec builds vs dev builds - with a configure 
> flag of some kind.

Yes.

> (I suppose you'd then like to see configure error out if it doesn't have 
> the necessary requisites given the venv-style chosen?)
> 
>     - use CONFIG_PYTHON_QEMU to enable/disable iotests in
>     tests/qemu-iotests/meson.build
> 
> So it's just skipped if you don't have the reqs to make the venv? (Not 
> an error?)

That's usually what we do with missing bits yes; you can use 
--enable-python-qemu to force an error in that case.

>     - add a configure option --enable-avocado=
>     {system,pip,auto,enabled}/--disable-avocado and matching
>     CONFIG_AVOCADO=y to config-host.mak
> 
>     - use it to enable/disable acceptance tests in tests/Makefile.include
> 
> And this is how you propose eliminating the need for an always-present 
> avocado builddep.

Yep.

>     rm -rf venv/
>     $python -m venv venv/
>     do_pip venv/ enable_python_qemu qemu.qmp python/qemu -- qemu.qmp
>     do_pip venv/ enable_avocado avocado -- -r tests/requirements.txt
> 
> Won't this rebuild the venv like *all of the time*, basically whenever 
> you see the "configuration is stale" message?

Yes, it would.  I think that's going to happen less and less since 
configure is on a serious diet; but it might still be annoying.  OTOH 
installing system packages (or also "pip install --user") will speed up 
creating the virtual env, because then pip will not be run in the venv.

> That both seems like way too often, *and* it wouldn't cover cases when 
> it really ought to be refreshed.

Which cases are those?

Paolo


      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-13 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13  0:06 [RFC PATCH 0/9] tests: run python tests under the build/tests/venv environment John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] python: update for mypy 0.950 John Snow
2022-05-13  8:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:09     ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] tests: add "TESTS_PYTHON" variable to Makefile John Snow
2022-05-13  8:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] tests: install "qemu" namespace package into venv John Snow
2022-05-13  8:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:01     ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] tests: silence pip upgrade warnings during venv creation John Snow
2022-05-13  8:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:02     ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] tests: use tests/venv to run basevm.py-based scripts John Snow
2022-05-13  8:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] tests: add check-venv as a dependency of check and check-block John Snow
2022-05-13  8:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:12     ` John Snow
2022-05-13 15:34       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 16:08         ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] tests: add check-venv to build-tcg-disabled CI recipe John Snow
2022-05-13  8:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] iotests: fix source directory location John Snow
2022-05-13  8:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] iotests: use tests/venv for running tests John Snow
2022-05-13  8:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:38     ` John Snow
2022-05-13 15:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 16:00         ` John Snow
2022-05-14 15:55         ` John Snow
2022-05-16  7:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-17 23:51             ` John Snow
2022-05-18 10:38               ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  8:35 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] tests: run python tests under the build/tests/venv environment Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-13  9:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 10:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-13 15:55     ` John Snow
2022-05-13 16:07       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-13 16:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 19:09           ` John Snow
2022-05-13 12:57   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-13 15:25   ` John Snow
2022-05-13 10:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 15:39   ` John Snow
2022-05-13 16:07     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]

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