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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, den@virtuozzo.com,
	andrey.drobyshev@virtuozzo.com, hreitz@redhat.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
	vsementsov@yandex-team.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/11] blockdev: drain while unlocked in internal_snapshot_action()
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 19:26:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCTSMfOt1tyJVwt1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250508140936.3344485-7-f.ebner@proxmox.com>

Am 08.05.2025 um 16:09 hat Fiona Ebner geschrieben:
> Signed-off-by: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
> ---
> 
> Could the bs associated to the device change because of polling
> when draining? If yes, does that mean we need to drain all in the
> beginning and not temporarily unlock?

I'm starting to hate this pattern. :-)

Maybe it would eventually be a good idea to have some helpers to deal
with this common problem of "I want to drain all nodes that will be
affected by the operation, but draining could change which nodes are
part of it".

For this specific case, though, I think drain all is right simply
because we may already rely on it: I suppose qmp_transaction() calls
bdrv_drain_all() for a reason, but it should actually be a drain
section. I'm pretty sure we're not just waiting for some requests to
complete, but want to keep other users away. Maybe the graph lock
actually covers whatever this drain was initially supposed to solve, but
bdrv_drain_all() doesn't look right.

So how about making it bdrv_drain_all_begin/end() in qmp_transaction()
just because that's the safe thing to do, and then we can just drop any
individual drains in action implementations?

Kevin



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-14 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-08 14:09 [RFC 00/11] do not drain while holding the graph lock Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 01/11] block: remove outdated comments about AioContext locking Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:22   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_reopen_queue_child() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:36   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 11:48     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-15 12:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 13:41         ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 03/11] block/snapshot: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_snapshot_delete() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:52   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 12:03     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: drain while unlocked in bdrv_reopen_parse_file_or_backing() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_inactivate_recurse() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 17:06   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 06/11] blockdev: drain while unlocked in internal_snapshot_action() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 17:26   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2025-05-19 12:37     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 07/11] blockdev: drain while unlocked in external_snapshot_action() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: mark bdrv_drained_begin() as GRAPH_UNLOCKED Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 17:50   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 09/11] block: move drain out of bdrv_change_aio_context() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 19:45   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 10/11] block/graph-lock: add drain flag to bdrv_graph_wr{, un}lock Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 19:54   ` [PATCH 10/11] block/graph-lock: add drain flag to bdrv_graph_wr{,un}lock Kevin Wolf
2025-05-19 12:10     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-20  6:09       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-20  8:42         ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 11/11] iotests/graph-changes-while-io: add test case with removal of lower snapshot Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 20:14   ` Kevin Wolf

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