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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Weil" <sw@weilnetz.de>, "Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Hailiang Zhang" <zhanghailiang@xfusion.com>,
	"Phil Dennis-Jordan" <phil@philjordan.eu>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, devel@daynix.com,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/11] Improve futex usage
Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 09:46:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDXCI2Xo3sNM27DG@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ceac6afc-a300-4ca8-a14e-7f60b31b75a0@daynix.com>

On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 11:09:08AM +0900, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
> On 2025/05/26 23:48, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 02:29:10PM +0900, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
> > > Akihiko Odaki (11):
> > >        futex: Check value after qemu_futex_wait()
> > >        futex: Support Windows
> > >        qemu-thread: Remove qatomic_read() in qemu_event_set()
> > >        qemu-thread: Replace __linux__ with CONFIG_LINUX
> > >        qemu-thread: Avoid futex abstraction for non-Linux
> > >        qemu-thread: Use futex for QemuEvent on Windows
> > >        qemu-thread: Use futex if available for QemuLockCnt
> > >        migration: Replace QemuSemaphore with QemuEvent
> > >        migration/colo: Replace QemuSemaphore with QemuEvent
> > >        migration/postcopy: Replace QemuSemaphore with QemuEvent
> > 
> > In case it makes things easier.. I queued the three migration patches;
> > AFAIU they look like standalone to go even without prior patches, meanwhile
> > it shouldn't be an issue if they're queued in two pulls.
> > 
> > I am still not sure whether patch 1 is needed at all, but I'll leave that
> > to others to decide.
> 
> The migration patches shouldn't be applied before patches "futex: Check
> value after qemu_futex_wait()" and "qemu-thread: Avoid futex abstraction for
> non-Linux" as they fix QemuEvent. Merging migration patches earlier can
> trigger bugs just like one we faced with hw/display/apple-gfx*

I didn't see anything like it mentioned in either cover letter or the
apple-gfx patch.  Could you provide a pointer?

> 
> Regarding patch 1 ("futex: Check value after qemu_futex_wait()"), I can
> argue that we should have it to comply the generic "upstream-first"
> principle; the upstream (man page) says to make a loop, so the downstream
> (QEMU) should follow that until the upstream says otherwise. But I think
> it's a good idea to spend efforts to understand the reasoning behind the man
> page since it's so important that it affects not only QEMU but also any
> userspace program that uses libpthread (i.e., practically everything).

IMHO it's not how we define upstream/downstream, but maybe it's me who
missed something.

It's fine - as long as someone agrees with you (Paolo? :), it could likely
be that I was wrong and I just didn't realize that.

Thanks for the update anyway, I will drop the migration patches regardless.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-27 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-26  5:29 [PATCH v4 00/11] Improve futex usage Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] futex: Check value after qemu_futex_wait() Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] futex: Support Windows Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] qemu-thread: Remove qatomic_read() in qemu_event_set() Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] qemu-thread: Replace __linux__ with CONFIG_LINUX Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  9:09   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] qemu-thread: Avoid futex abstraction for non-Linux Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] qemu-thread: Use futex for QemuEvent on Windows Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  9:23   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] qemu-thread: Use futex if available for QemuLockCnt Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] migration: Replace QemuSemaphore with QemuEvent Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  9:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] migration/colo: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  9:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] migration/postcopy: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  5:29 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] hw/display/apple-gfx: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26  9:27   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-26  9:29     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-29  4:49       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26 14:48 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Improve futex usage Peter Xu
2025-05-27  2:09   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-27 13:46     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-05-28  3:30       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-26 16:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-27  3:00   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-27 15:01     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-28  3:26       ` Akihiko Odaki

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