From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/21] migration: Allow migrate commands to provide the migration config
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 16:43:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEcBLLwB9vZ33k8Q@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aEb-umgh0VP2sKGW@x1.local>
On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 11:33:14AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>
> Now I think I know part of what I've missed: I used to think the "config"
> of per-QMP-migrate-command can be totally temporary for a specific
> migration request, but then we need another MigrationState.parameters_2 to
> cache the old or vice versa; that's probably not necessary. Now I think it
> makes sense to overwrite any settings directly, hence I think I changed my
> mind on question (1), YES is fine here.
>
> For (2), why it would introduce any uncertainty for mgmt?
>
> If the mgmt app can both: (1) query from qapi schema knowing all the
> parameters supported, then (2) specify all the parameters in QMP migrate's
> "option" parameter. Then it's literally overwritting all the parameters,
> so it's predictable with or without completely removing global settings as
> an idea?
That is relying on the mgmt app specifiying absolutely every config
parameter that exists. If they miss anything, then the behaviour is
not well defined, as external global state still affects things.
This is the same situation we already have with migrate-set-parameter,
where mgmt apps have to know to call migrate-set-parameter over & over
with every possible parameter to get back to a well known starting point.
The command needs to run with the parameters provided in 'config' and
no external global state, whether from -global or any prior call of
migrate-set-parameter
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-09 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-03 1:37 [PATCH 00/21] migration: Unify capabilities and parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 01/21] migration: Normalize tls arguments Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-05 20:51 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-06 13:48 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-25 9:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-25 17:17 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-26 9:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-26 14:51 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-27 7:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-27 20:28 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-07-01 7:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-07-01 9:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 02/21] migration: Remove MigrateSetParameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-05 20:58 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 11:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-25 17:21 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-26 9:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 03/21] qapi/migration: Don't document MigrationParameter Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-05 21:00 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 12:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-25 12:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-25 17:29 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 04/21] migration: Run a post update routine after setting parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 05/21] migration: Add a flag to track block-bitmap-mapping input Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 15:03 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-06 15:43 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 17:44 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-06 18:38 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 06/21] migration: Remove checks for s->parameters has_* fields Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 15:13 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 07/21] migration: Set block_bitmap_mapping unconditionally in query-migrate-parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 08/21] migration: Do away with usage of QERR_INVALID_PARAMETER_VALUE Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 15:17 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 09/21] migration: Extract code to mark all parameters as present Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 15:26 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-06 15:51 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 17:48 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:37 ` [PATCH 10/21] migration: Use QAPI_CLONE_MEMBERS in query_migrate_parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 15:29 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-06 15:53 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-12 20:58 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-12 21:27 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 12:30 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 11/21] migration: Use QAPI_CLONE_MEMBERS in migrate_params_test_apply Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 12/21] migration: Use QAPI_CLONE_MEMBERS in migrate_params_apply Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 13/21] migration: Use visitors in migrate_params_test_apply Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 14/21] migration: Cleanup hmp_info_migrate_parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 18:52 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 15/21] migration: Add capabilities into MigrationParameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 19:01 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 16/21] qapi/migration: Mark that query/set-migrate-parameters support capabilities Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 9:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-06 13:53 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 17/21] migration: Remove s->capabilities Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 19:16 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 18/21] qapi/migration: Deprecate capabilities commands Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 19:16 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 19/21] migration: Allow migrate commands to provide the migration config Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 9:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-06 19:28 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-06 20:23 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 20:50 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 14:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-09 15:51 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 16:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 16:49 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 18:17 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-09 18:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-09 19:05 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 19:41 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-09 20:35 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-10 20:55 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-10 21:27 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 15:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 15:33 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 15:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-06-09 15:53 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 15:58 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-09 16:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 16:41 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 20/21] libqtest: Add a function to check whether a QMP command supports a feature Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-03 1:38 ` [PATCH 21/21] tests/qtest/migration: Add a test for config passing Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-12 6:41 ` [PATCH 00/21] migration: Unify capabilities and parameters Mario Casquero
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