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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
Cc: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	<qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	<clg@redhat.com>, <eric.auger@redhat.com>, <mst@redhat.com>,
	<jasowang@redhat.com>, <peterx@redhat.com>, <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	<shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	<joao.m.martins@oracle.com>, <clement.mathieu--drif@eviden.com>,
	<kevin.tian@intel.com>, <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	<chao.p.peng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/20] hw/pci: Introduce pci_device_get_viommu_cap()
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 12:20:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aG7A8hxd1R4iVhGT@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01584206-e2c0-4881-aaf5-d6c552a30873@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 01:55:46PM -0400, Donald Dutile wrote:
> > > +enum {
> > > +    VIOMMU_CAP_STAGE1 = BIT_ULL(0),  /* stage1 page table supported */
> > > +};
> > 
> > Thanks for this work. I am happy to see that we can share the
> > common code that allocates a NESTING_PARENT in the core using
> > this flag.
> > 
> > Yet on ARM, a STAGE1 page table isn't always a nested S1, the
> > hardware accelerated one. More often, it can be just a regular
> > 1-stage translation table via emulated translation code and an
> > emulated iotlb.
> > 
> Because the user-created smmuv3 started as 'accelerated smmuv3',
> and had been 'de-accelerated' to simply 'user created smmuv3',
> I'm looking for some clarification in the above statement/request.
> 
> Is the above suppose to reflect that a nested IOMMU has some hw-acceleration
> in its Stage1 implementation?
> If so, then call it that: STAGE1_ACCEL.
> If it's suppose to represent that an IOMMU has nested/2-stage support,
> then the above is a valid cap;  -but-, having a nested/2-stage support IOMMU
> doesn't necessarily mean its accelerated.

Well, there are an emulated "nested" mode and an hw-accelerated
"nested" mode in the smmuv3 code, so we had to choose something
like "accel" over "nested".

Here, on the other hand, I think the core using this CAP would
unlikely care about an emulated "nested" mode in the individual
vIOMMU..

So I suggested:
     /* hardware-accelerated nested stage-1 page table support */
    VIOMMU_CAP_NESTED_S1 = BIT_ULL(0),

which it should be clear IMHO.

If not, maybe go a bit further like "VIOMMU_CAP_HW_NESTED_S1"?

Thanks
Nicolin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-09 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-08 11:05 [PATCH v3 00/20] intel_iommu: Enable stage-1 translation for passthrough device Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] intel_iommu: Rename vtd_ce_get_rid2pasid_entry to vtd_ce_get_pasid_entry Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] hw/pci: Introduce pci_device_get_viommu_cap() Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-09  0:39   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-09  3:38     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-09  4:03       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-09  5:52         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-09 17:55     ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-09 19:20       ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-07-10  1:22         ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-15 15:28           ` Eric Auger
2025-07-15 16:42             ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-10  8:11         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-07-10 17:01           ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-10 17:07             ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-10 17:25               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-10 17:16           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-11 13:18             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-07-15 15:36   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] intel_iommu: Implement get_viommu_cap() callback Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-15 16:32   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] vfio/iommufd: Force creating nested parent domain Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-15 16:36   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] hw/pci: Export pci_device_get_iommu_bus_devfn() and return bool Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-15 16:40   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-16  3:29     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] intel_iommu: Introduce a new structure VTDHostIOMMUDevice Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] intel_iommu: Check for compatibility with IOMMUFD backed device when x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-16  9:22   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-16 10:31     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-16 12:09       ` Eric Auger
2025-07-17  3:47         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-17  6:48           ` Eric Auger
2025-07-17  7:03             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] intel_iommu: Fail passthrough device under PCI bridge if x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-16  9:53   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-17  3:24     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] intel_iommu: Introduce two helpers vtd_as_from/to_iommu_pasid_locked Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-16 12:53   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-17  3:48     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] intel_iommu: Handle PASID entry removing and updating Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-16 15:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-17  7:02     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] intel_iommu: Handle PASID entry adding Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-16 16:44   ` Eric Auger
2025-07-17  7:15     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] intel_iommu: Introduce a new pasid cache invalidation type FORCE_RESET Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] intel_iommu: Stick to system MR for IOMMUFD backed host device when x-fls=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] intel_iommu: Bind/unbind guest page table to host Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] intel_iommu: Replay pasid bindings after context cache invalidation Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] intel_iommu: Propagate PASID-based iotlb invalidation to host Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] intel_iommu: Replay all pasid bindings when either SRTP or TE bit is changed Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] vfio: Add a new element bypass_ro in VFIOContainerBase Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] Workaround for ERRATA_772415_SPR17 Zhenzhong Duan
2025-07-08 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] intel_iommu: Enable host device when x-flts=on in scalable mode Zhenzhong Duan

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