From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: Issues with pdcm in qemu 10.1-rc on migration and save/restore
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 13:00:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJNDxxjeqkOLAO2r@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAATJJ0+Qq3ksRmNRDrGQLVHQ=XnsnFHxCNxUhjJfNfgwUKkDPQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 01:52:17PM +0200, Christian Ehrhardt wrote:
> Hi,
> I was unsure if this would be better sent to libvirt or qemu - the
> issue is somewhere between libvirt modelling CPUs and qemu 10.1
> behaving differently. I did not want to double post and gladly most of
> the people are on both lists - since the switch in/out of the problem
> is qemu 10.0 <-> 10.1 let me start here. I beg your pardon for not yet
> having all the answers, I'm sure I could find more with debugging, but
> I also wanted to report early for your awareness while we are still in
> the RC phase.
>
>
> # Problem
>
> What I found when testing migrations in Ubuntu with qemu 10.1-rc1 was:
> error: operation failed: guest CPU doesn't match specification:
> missing features: pdcm
>
> This is behaving the same with libvirt 11.4 or the more recent 11.6.
> But switching back to qemu 10.0 confirmed that this behavior is new
> with qemu 10.1-rc.
> Without yet having any hard evidence against them I found a few pdcm
> related commits between 10.0 and 10.1-rc1:
> 7ff24fb65 i386/tdx: Don't mask off CPUID_EXT_PDCM
> 00268e000 i386/cpu: Warn about why CPUID_EXT_PDCM is not available
> e68ec2980 i386/cpu: Move adjustment of CPUID_EXT_PDCM before
> feature_dependencies[] check
> 0ba06e46d i386/tdx: Add TDX fixed1 bits to supported CPUIDs
>
>
> # Caveat
>
> My test environment is in LXD system containers, that gives me issues
> in the power management detection
> libvirtd[406]: error from service: GDBus.Error:System.Error.EROFS:
> Read-only file system
> libvirtd[406]: Failed to get host power management capabilities
That's harmless.
> And the resulting host-model on a rather old test server will therefore have:
> <cpu mode='custom' match='exact' check='full'>
> <model fallback='forbid'>Haswell-noTSX-IBRS</model>
> <vendor>Intel</vendor>
> <feature policy='require' name='vmx'/>
> <feature policy='disable' name='pdcm'/>
> ...
>
> But that was fine in the past, and the behavior started to break
> save/restore or migrations just now with the new qemu 10.1-rc.
>
> # Next steps
>
> I'm soon overwhelmed by meetings for the rest of the day, but would be
> curious if one has a suggestion about what to look at next for
> debugging or a theory about what might go wrong. If nothing else comes
> up I'll try to set up a bisect run tomorrow.
Yeah, git bisect is what I'd start with.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-06 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-06 11:52 Issues with pdcm in qemu 10.1-rc on migration and save/restore Christian Ehrhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-08-06 17:57 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-08-06 19:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-07 3:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-07 6:37 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-08-07 8:09 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-10 13:07 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-08-19 14:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-20 5:11 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-08-20 9:10 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-09-03 8:38 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-09-03 11:26 ` Hector Cao
2025-09-04 14:35 ` Hector Cao
2025-09-10 11:57 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix cross migration issue with missing features: pdcm, arch-capabilities Hector Cao
2025-09-10 11:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] target/i386: add compatibility property for arch_capabilities Hector Cao
2025-09-16 8:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 8:28 ` Hector Cao
2025-09-23 7:25 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2025-09-10 11:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] target/i386: add compatibility property for pdcm feature Hector Cao
2025-09-23 7:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix cross migration issue with missing features: pdcm, arch-capabilities Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-23 10:08 ` Hector Cao
2025-09-23 10:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-23 10:31 ` Hector Cao
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