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From: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Junjie Mao" <junjie.mao@hotmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-rust@nongnu.org,
	"Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
	"Chuanxiao Dong" <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a pointer to MemoryRegionSection
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 23:39:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJtgIBgl8JzDsJ1O@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <beab841b-9c69-43d2-b996-879eee9e1120@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 03:57:17PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:57:17 +0200
> From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a
>  pointer to MemoryRegionSection
> 
> On 8/7/25 14:30, Zhao Liu wrote:
> > Rust side will use cell::Opaque<> to hide details of C structure, and
> > this could help avoid the direct operation on C memory from Rust side.
> > 
> > Therefore, it's necessary to wrap a translation binding and make it only
> > return the pointer to MemoryRegionSection, instead of the copy.
> > 
> > As the first step, make flatview_do_translate return a pointer to
> > MemoryRegionSection, so that we can build a wrapper based on it.
> 
> Independent of Rust, doing the copy as late as possible is good, but make it
> return a "const MemoryRegionSection*" so that there's no risk of overwriting
> data.

Yes, const MemoryRegionSection* is helpful...

> Hopefully this does not show a bigger problem!

...then we will get `*const bindings::MemoryRegionSection` from
flatview_translate_section().

This is mainly about how to construct Opaque<T> from `*cont T`:

impl FlatView {
    fn translate(
        &self,
        addr: GuestAddress,
        len: GuestUsize,
        is_write: bool,
    ) -> Option<(&MemoryRegionSection, MemoryRegionAddress, GuestUsize)> {
        ...
        let ptr = unsafe {
            flatview_translate_section(
                self.as_mut_ptr(),
                addr.raw_value(),
                &mut raw_addr,
                &mut remain,
                is_write,
                MEMTXATTRS_UNSPECIFIED,
            )
        };

        ...

------> // Note here, Opaque<>::from_raw() requires *mut T.
	// And we can definitely convert *cont T to *mut T!
        let s = unsafe { <FlatView as GuestMemory>::R::from_raw(ptr as *mut _) };
        ...
    }

But look closer to Opaque<>, it has 2 safe methods: as_mut_ptr() &
raw_get().

These 2 methods indicate that the T pointed by Qpaque<T> is mutable,
which has the conflict with the original `*const bindings::MemoryRegionSection`.

So from this point, it seems unsafe to use Qpaque<> on this case.

To address this, I think we need:
 - rich comments about this MemoryRegionSection is actually immuatble.
 - modify other C functions to accept `const *MemoryRegionSection` as
   argument.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Zhao



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07 12:30 [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 01/26] rust/hpet: Fix the error caused by vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  7:27     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 02/26] rust/cargo: Add the support for vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 03/26] subprojects: Add thiserror-impl crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 04/26] subprojects: Add thiserror crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 05/26] subprojects: Add winapi-i686-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 06/26] subprojects: Add winapi-x86_64-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 07/26] subprojects: Add winapi crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  7:33     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 08/26] subprojects: Add vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 09/26] rust: Add vm-memory in meson Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 10/26] subprojects/vm-memory: Patch vm-memory for QEMU memory backend Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  8:17     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-08  8:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  8:51         ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 11/26] rust/cargo: Specify the patched vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 12/26] rcu: Make rcu_read_lock & rcu_read_unlock not inline Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  8:19     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:29   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 13:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09  7:21       ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-09  9:13         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09  9:26           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-12 10:43             ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 10:31       ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 14/26] memory: Expose interfaces about Flatview reference count to Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 15/26] memory: Rename address_space_lookup_region and expose it " Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a pointer to MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-12 15:39     ` Zhao Liu [this message]
2025-08-12 15:42       ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 15:12         ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 19:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 15:10         ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 17/26] memory: Add a translation helper to return MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 18/26] memory: Rename flatview_access_allowed() to memory_region_access_allowed() Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:41   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 19/26] memory: Add MemoryRegionSection based misc helpers Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 20/26] memory: Add wrappers of intermediate steps for read/write Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 21/26] memory: Add store/load interfaces for Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 22/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemoryRegion for MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 23/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemory for FlatView Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 24/26] rust/memory: Provide AddressSpace bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:47     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 25/26] rust/memory: Add binding to check target endian Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:44   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 14:48     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 26/26] rust/hpet: Use safe binding to access address space Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:42 ` [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 14:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:56   ` Zhao Liu

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