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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Yong Huang <yong.huang@smartx.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] multifd: Make the main thread yield periodically to the main loop
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:07:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKRpAP_8qjlNA20A@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250819140326.6e94b1c9@penguin>

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 02:03:26PM +0200, Lukas Straub wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 11:31:03 +0100
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 10:53:11AM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
> > > Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de> writes:
> > >   
> > > > On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 11:37:23 -0400
> > > > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >> ...
> > > >> migrate_cancel() should really be an OOB command..  It should be a superset
> > > >> of yank features, plus anything migration speficic besides yanking the
> > > >> channels, for example, when migration thread is blocked in PRE_SWITCHOVER.  
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, I think the migration code should handle this properly even if the
> > > > yank command is used. From the POV of migration, it sees that the
> > > > connection broke with connection reset. That is the same error as if the
> > > > other side crashes/is killed or a NAT/stateful firewall in between
> > > > reboots.
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > That should all work just fine. After yank or after a detectable network
> > > failure. The issue here seems to be that the destination recv is hanging
> > > indefinitely. I don't think we ever played with socket timeout
> > > configurations, or even switching to non-blocking during the sync. This
> > > is actually (AFAIK) the first time we get a hang that's not "just" a
> > > synchronization issue in the migration code.  
> > 
> > Based on the stack trace, whether the socket is blocking or not isn't a
> > problem - QEMU is stuck in a  sem_wait call that will delay the coroutine,
> > and thus the thread, indefinitely. IMHO the semaphore usage needs to be
> > removed in favour of a synchronization mechanism that can integrate with
> > event loop such that the coroutine does not block.
> > 
> 
> I don't think that is an issue. The semaphore is just there to sync
> with the multifd threads, which are in turn blocking on recvmsg.
> 
> Without multifd the main thread would hang in recvmsg as well in this
> scenario.

If it is using blocking I/O that would hang, but that's another thing
that should not be done.  The QIOChannel code supports using non-blocking
sockets in a blocking manner by yielding the coroutine.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-19 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07  2:41 [PATCH] multifd: Make the main thread yield periodically to the main loop yong.huang
2025-08-07  9:32 ` Lukas Straub
2025-08-07  9:36 ` Lukas Straub
2025-08-08  2:36   ` Yong Huang
2025-08-08  7:01     ` Lukas Straub
2025-08-08  8:02       ` Yong Huang
2025-08-08 13:55         ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-08-08 15:37           ` Peter Xu
2025-08-11  2:25             ` Yong Huang
2025-08-11  7:03             ` Lukas Straub
2025-08-11 13:53               ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-08-19 10:31                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-19 12:03                   ` Lukas Straub
2025-08-19 12:07                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-08-19 20:03                       ` Peter Xu
2025-08-11  2:27           ` Yong Huang
2025-08-08  6:36 ` Yong Huang
2025-08-08 15:42 ` Peter Xu
2025-08-11  2:02   ` Yong Huang
2025-08-19 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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