From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: "Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>
Cc: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
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"peterx@redhat.com" <peterx@redhat.com>,
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"jgg@nvidia.com" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
"joao.m.martins@oracle.com" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
"clement.mathieu--drif@eviden.com"
<clement.mathieu--drif@eviden.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Peng, Chao P" <chao.p.peng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/21] hw/pci: Introduce pci_device_get_viommu_cap()
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 20:26:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLEd/YAwfhXD2Lro@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA3PR11MB9136978139DB0DA6A2A06C82923AA@IA3PR11MB9136.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 01:54:50AM +0000, Duan, Zhenzhong wrote:
> >>On 2025/8/27 23:30, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 02:32:42PM +0200, Eric Auger wrote:
> >>>> On 8/27/25 2:30 PM, Yi Liu wrote:
> >>>>> On 2025/8/27 19:22, Eric Auger wrote:
> >>>>>>> TBH. I'm hesitating to name it as get_viommu_cap. The scope is a
> >little
> >>>>>>> larger than what we want so far. So I'm wondering if it can be done
> >>>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>> more straightforward way. e.g. just a bool op named
> >>>>>>> iommu_nested_wanted(). Just an example, maybe better naming. We
> >>can
> >>>>>>> extend the op to be returning a u64 value in the future when we see
> >>>>>>> another request on VFIO from vIOMMU.
> >>>>>> personnally I am fine with the bitmask which looks more future proof.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> not quite sure if there is another info that needs to be checked in
> >>>>> this "VFIO asks vIOMMU" manner. Have you seen one beside this
> >>>>> nested hwpt requirement by vIOMMU?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't remember any at this point. But I guess with ARM CCA device
> >>>> passthrough we might have other needs
> >>>
> >>> Yea. A Realm vSMMU instance won't allocate IOAS/HWPT. So it will
> >>> ask the core to bypass those allocations, via the same op.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know: does "get_viommu_flags" sound more fitting to have
> >>> a clear meaning of "want"?
> >>>
> >>> VIOMMU_FLAG_WANT_NESTING_PARENT
> >>> VIOMMU_FLAG_WANT_NO_IOAS
> >>>
> >>> At least, the 2nd one being a "cap" wouldn't sound nice to me..
> >>
> >>this looks good to me.
> >
> >OK, will do s/get_viommu_cap/get_viommu_flags and
> >s/VIOMMU_CAP_HW_NESTED/ VIOMMU_FLAG_WANT_NESTING_PARENT if
> >no more suggestions.
>
> I just noticed this change will conflict with your suggestion of using HW_NESTED terminology.
> Let me know if you agree with this change or not?
It wouldn't necessarily conflict. VIOMMU_FLAG_WANT_NESTING_PARENT
is a request, interchangeable with VIOMMU_FLAG_SUPPORT_HW_NESTED,
i.e. a cap.
At the end of the day, they are fundamentally the same thing that
is to tell the core to allocate a nesting parent HWPT. The former
one is just more straightforward, avoiding confusing terms such as
"stage-1" and "nested".
IMHO, you wouldn't even need the comments in the other thread, as
the flag explains clearly what it wants and what the core is doing.
Also, once you use the "want" one, the "HW_NESTED" terminology will
not exist in the code.
Nicolin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-30 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-22 6:40 [PATCH v5 00/21] intel_iommu: Enable stage-1 translation for passthrough device Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] intel_iommu: Rename vtd_ce_get_rid2pasid_entry to vtd_ce_get_pasid_entry Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 22:19 ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-08-25 6:01 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] hw/pci: Introduce pci_device_get_viommu_cap() Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 22:22 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 11:13 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-27 11:22 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-27 12:30 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-27 12:32 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-27 15:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-28 8:26 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-28 9:06 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-29 1:54 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-29 3:26 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-09-01 2:35 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-09-01 2:59 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-01 3:31 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] intel_iommu: Implement get_viommu_cap() callback Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 22:23 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] vfio: Introduce helper vfio_pci_from_vfio_device() Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 22:40 ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-08-25 6:06 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-27 11:13 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-27 11:34 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-01 16:36 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-09-02 2:12 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] vfio/iommufd: Force creating nested parent domain Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 23:12 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-25 8:28 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-27 11:51 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-27 11:48 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-28 9:53 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-28 13:00 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-29 1:40 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-29 3:47 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] hw/pci: Export pci_device_get_iommu_bus_devfn() and return bool Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 23:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 11:14 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] intel_iommu: Introduce a new structure VTDHostIOMMUDevice Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 23:17 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-26 17:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 6:45 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-27 8:51 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 16:36 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-27 16:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 11:14 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-28 9:17 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-29 2:57 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] intel_iommu: Check for compatibility with IOMMUFD backed device when x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-27 11:42 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-28 9:37 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-27 11:55 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] intel_iommu: Fail passthrough device under PCI bridge if x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 10:33 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-01 5:14 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] intel_iommu: Introduce two helpers vtd_as_from/to_iommu_pasid_locked Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 11:36 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-01 5:33 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-09-03 6:30 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-03 7:13 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] intel_iommu: Handle PASID entry removal and update Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-27 14:25 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-01 3:17 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-28 12:05 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-01 3:31 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-09-03 7:58 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-04 2:37 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] intel_iommu: Handle PASID entry addition Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-27 16:22 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-01 9:03 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-09-03 8:52 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-04 2:45 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-29 5:46 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] intel_iommu: Introduce a new pasid cache invalidation type FORCE_RESET Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-27 16:28 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-29 5:56 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-01 9:04 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] intel_iommu: Stick to system MR for IOMMUFD backed host device when x-fls=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-27 17:14 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-29 6:06 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] intel_iommu: Bind/unbind guest page table to host Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 8:37 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-29 7:05 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] intel_iommu: Replay pasid bindings after context cache invalidation Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 9:43 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-29 7:35 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-01 8:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-09-03 10:18 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-04 6:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] intel_iommu: Propagate PASID-based iotlb invalidation to host Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 10:00 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-28 12:11 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-01 8:32 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] intel_iommu: Replay all pasid bindings when either SRTP or TE bit is changed Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 10:02 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] vfio: Add a new element bypass_ro in VFIOContainerBase Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 12:47 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] Workaround for ERRATA_772415_SPR17 Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-22 23:55 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-25 9:21 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-25 16:58 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 7:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-27 8:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-27 11:56 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-27 15:09 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-29 8:16 ` Yi Liu
2025-08-29 8:54 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-08-22 6:40 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] intel_iommu: Enable host device when x-flts=on in scalable mode Zhenzhong Duan
2025-08-28 12:51 ` Eric Auger
2025-08-29 7:42 ` Yi Liu
2025-09-16 8:17 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-08-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] intel_iommu: Enable stage-1 translation for passthrough device Yi Liu
2025-08-28 5:53 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
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