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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: CJ Chen <cjchen@igel.co.jp>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	qemu-riscv@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"Klaus Jensen" <its@irrelevant.dk>,
	"Jesper Devantier" <foss@defmacro.it>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	"Weiwei Li" <liwei1518@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Henrique Barboza" <dbarboza@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Liu Zhiwei" <zhiwei_liu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Tyrone Ting" <kfting@nuvoton.com>,
	"Hao Wu" <wuhaotsh@google.com>,
	"Max Filippov" <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Tomoyuki Hirose" <hrstmyk811m@gmail.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/9] doc/devel/memory.rst: additional explanation for unaligned access
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 12:09:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLcWvR5Snm1RXEcY@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250822092410.25833-2-cjchen@igel.co.jp>

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 06:24:02PM +0900, CJ Chen wrote:
> Add documentation to clarify that if `.valid.unaligned = true` but
> `.impl.unaligned = false`, QEMU’s memory core will automatically split
> unaligned guest accesses into multiple aligned accesses. This helps
> devices avoid implementing their own unaligned logic, but can be
> problematic for devices with side-effect-heavy registers. Also note
> that setting `.valid.unaligned = false` together with
> `.impl.unaligned = true` is invalid, as it contradicts itself and
> will trigger an assertion.
> 
> Signed-off-by: CJ Chen <cjchen@igel.co.jp>
> Acked-by: Tomoyuki Hirose <hrstmyk811m@gmail.com>
> Suggested-by: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
> ---
>  docs/devel/memory.rst | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/docs/devel/memory.rst b/docs/devel/memory.rst
> index 57fb2aec76..71d7de7ae5 100644
> --- a/docs/devel/memory.rst
> +++ b/docs/devel/memory.rst
> @@ -365,6 +365,24 @@ callbacks are called:
>  - .impl.unaligned specifies that the *implementation* supports unaligned
>    accesses; if false, unaligned accesses will be emulated by two aligned
>    accesses.
> +- Additionally, if .valid.unaligned = true but .impl.unaligned = false, the
> +  memory core will emulate each unaligned guest access by splitting it into
> +  multiple aligned sub-accesses. This ensures that devices which only handle
> +  aligned requests do not need to implement unaligned logic themselves. For
> +  example, see xhci_cap_ops in hw/usb/hcd-xhci.c: it sets  .valid.unaligned
> +  = true so guests can do unaligned reads on the xHCI Capability Registers,
> +  while keeping .impl.unaligned = false to rely on the core splitting logic.
> +  However, if a device’s registers have side effects on read or write, this
> +  extra splitting can introduce undesired behavior. Specifically, for devices
> +  whose registers trigger state changes on each read/write, splitting an access
> +  can lead to reading or writing bytes beyond the originally requested subrange
> +  thereby triggering repeated or otherwise unintended register side effects.
> +  In such cases, one should set .valid.unaligned = false to reject unaligned
> +  accesses entirely.
> +- Conversely, if .valid.unaligned = false but .impl.unaligned = true,
> +  that setting is considered invalid; it claims unaligned access is allowed
> +  by the implementation yet disallowed for the device. QEMU enforces this with
> +  an assertion to prevent contradictory usage.

Some cosmetic comments only..

This shouldn't be another bullet, but rather a separate sub-section,
because it describes the relationship of above two entries.

IMO it can be better like this:

MMIO Operations
---------------

...

- .valid.min_access_size, .valid.max_access_size...

- .valid.unaligned...  See :ref:`unaligned-mmio-accesses` for details.

- .impl.min_access_size, .impl.max_access_size...

- .impl.unaligned...  See :ref:`unaligned-mmio-accesses` for details.

.. _unaligned-mmio-accesses:

Unaligned MMIO Accesses
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

...

-- 
Peter Xu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-02 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22  9:24 [RFC PATCH v2 0/9] support unaligned access to xHCI Capability CJ Chen
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/9] doc/devel/memory.rst: additional explanation for unaligned access CJ Chen
2025-09-01 17:09   ` Peter Maydell
2025-09-02 16:09   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/9] hw/riscv: iommu-trap: remove .impl.unaligned = true CJ Chen
2025-08-24  9:22   ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/9] hw: npcm7xx_fiu and mx_pic change " CJ Chen
2025-08-25 11:00   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-02 19:09     ` Peter Xu
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/9] hw/nvme/ctrl: specify the 'valid' field in MemoryRegionOps CJ Chen
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/9] system/memory: support unaligned access CJ Chen
2025-09-01 17:21   ` Peter Maydell
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/9] hw/usb/hcd-xhci: allow unaligned access to Capability Registers CJ Chen
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/9] system/memory: assert on invalid unaligned combo CJ Chen
2025-08-25 11:06   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/9] hw/misc: add test device for memory access CJ Chen
2025-09-01 17:03   ` Peter Maydell
2025-09-04 14:01     ` Peter Xu
2025-08-22  9:24 ` [PATCH RFC v2 9/9] tests/qtest: add test for memory region access CJ Chen
2025-08-25 11:16   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-26  2:04     ` chen CJ
2025-09-01 16:57   ` Peter Maydell
2025-09-05 14:21     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-01 17:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/9] support unaligned access to xHCI Capability Peter Maydell
2025-09-03  5:03 ` [Withdrawn] " chen CJ
2025-09-03  9:47   ` Peter Maydell
2025-09-05 14:32     ` Peter Xu

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