From: Magnus Kulke <magnuskulke@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>
Cc: "Mohamed Mediouni" <mohamed@unpredictable.fr>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [CRM114spam]: Re: [PATCH v4 03/27] target/i386/mshv: Add x86 decoder/emu implementation
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 11:11:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMp7PL3R+kEUfZH3@example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMn29rg2b7yC7Iu7@gallifrey>
On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 11:47:02PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Mohamed Mediouni (mohamed@unpredictable.fr) wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 16. Sep 2025, at 19:40, Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dave@treblig.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > For example 'x86_is_real' is declared in target/i386/emulate/x86.h
> > > and defined in target/i386/hvf/x86.c (hmm that's a bit weird).
> > > So it's probably best to check if what you want already exists,
> > > move it into target/i386 somewhere I guess, and everyone shares it.
>
> > Currently there isn’t a backend-agnostic interface for this.
> > It was part of the import of HVF support to qemu from downstream.
>
> Hmm.
>
> > Notably means that the emulate infrastructure isn’t usable by multiple
> > backends in the same build. It might be possible to get away without that
> > however as HVF is macOS specific, MSHV is Linux-specific and WHPX
> > (which is currently using winhvemulator instead of this) is Windows-specific...
>
> It does scare me a bit having 2 different functions with the same name like that;
> but hmm OK...
>
> But - x86_is_real() is identical in these cases - the x86_is_protected() is the
> implementation dependent bit.
> The only bit that seems different is the reading of the register, eg. CR0, so there
> could be a:
>
> x86_read_CR0(CPUState *cpu)
> and the x86_is_real and x86_is_paging_mode all be shared (as inline's ???).
>
> But this does all get messy - I mean, even if MSHV is Linux specific, and HVF
> is macos specific; it's a shame that the logic behind x86_is_* is open coded
> in all of tcg, kvm and copied twice in hvf and mshv.
>
> (I don't understand the structure as to why some stuff needs backend specific
> reads and some are in env).
>
> Dave
Hey Dave,
in preperation for the MSHV patches Wei Liu did rework the HVF x86
emulator code and abstracted it into target/i386/emulate, so we could
use prior art as much as possible. Since HVF had to perform similar
userland decoding/emulation of instruction on MMIO exits that was a
good fit. However, the requirements are not exactly the same.
Thus, in the current approach there is some duplication, like
`x86_is_real()` (which is sort of trivial and arguably could indeed
be inlined), but e.g. `x86_is_paging_mode()` would have different
implementations per accelerator target.
best,
magnus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-17 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-16 16:48 [PATCH v4 00/27] Implementing a MSHV (Microsoft Hypervisor) accelerator Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 01/27] accel: Add Meson and config support for MSHV accelerator Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 10:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-02 8:23 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 02/27] target/i386/emulate: Allow instruction decoding from stream Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 03/27] target/i386/mshv: Add x86 decoder/emu implementation Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 17:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-16 22:48 ` Mohamed Mediouni
2025-09-16 23:47 ` [CRM114spam]: " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-17 9:11 ` Magnus Kulke [this message]
2025-09-17 9:36 ` Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 10:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-01 12:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 04/27] hw/intc: Generalize APIC helper names from kvm_* to accel_* Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 12:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 05/27] include/hw/hyperv: Add MSHV ABI header definitions Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 06/27] linux-headers/linux: Add mshv.h headers Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 11:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 07/27] accel/mshv: Add accelerator skeleton Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 08/27] accel/mshv: Register memory region listeners Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 09/27] accel/mshv: Initialize VM partition Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 12:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 10/27] accel/mshv: Add vCPU creation and execution loop Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 11:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 11/27] accel/mshv: Add vCPU signal handling Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 12/27] target/i386/mshv: Add CPU create and remove logic Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 13/27] target/i386/mshv: Implement mshv_store_regs() Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 14/27] target/i386/mshv: Implement mshv_get_standard_regs() Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 15/27] target/i386/mshv: Implement mshv_get_special_regs() Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 16/27] target/i386/mshv: Implement mshv_arch_put_registers() Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 17/27] target/i386/mshv: Set local interrupt controller state Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 18/27] target/i386/mshv: Register CPUID entries with MSHV Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 19/27] target/i386/mshv: Register MSRs " Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 20/27] target/i386/mshv: Integrate x86 instruction decoder/emulator Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 21/27] target/i386/mshv: Write MSRs to the hypervisor Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 22/27] target/i386/mshv: Implement mshv_vcpu_run() Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 23/27] accel/mshv: Handle overlapping mem mappings Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 24/27] qapi/accel: Allow to query mshv capabilities Magnus Kulke
2025-09-16 17:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-10-01 9:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-01 12:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-10 14:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-10-10 14:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <20251010163312.GA2896568@liuwe-devbox-debian-v2.local>
2025-10-10 16:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 25/27] target/i386/mshv: Use preallocated page for hvcall Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 12:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-02 8:05 ` Magnus Kulke
2025-10-02 8:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 26/27] docs: Add mshv to documentation Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 12:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 27/27] MAINTAINERS: Add maintainers for mshv accelerator Magnus Kulke
2025-10-01 12:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-02 7:40 ` Magnus Kulke
2025-10-02 7:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-30 20:59 ` [PATCH v4 00/27] Implementing a MSHV (Microsoft Hypervisor) accelerator Wei Liu
2025-10-02 8:30 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-02 8:41 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-02 8:48 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-02 9:10 ` Magnus Kulke
2025-10-02 14:07 ` Mohamed Mediouni
2025-10-02 15:36 ` Magnus Kulke
2025-10-02 16:10 ` Mohamed Mediouni
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