From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
"Hanna Reitz" <hreitz@redhat.com>,
"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Christian Schoenebeck" <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
"Stefan Weil" <sw@weilnetz.de>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/20] monitor: initialize global data from a constructor
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:31:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMrUNYrYeDB_sagn@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871po541h1.fsf@pond.sub.org>
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 04:07:06PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Some monitor functions, most notably, monitor_cur() rely on global
> > data being initialized by 'monitor_init_globals()'. The latter is
> > called relatively late in startup. If code triggers error_report()
> > before monitor_init_globals() is called, QEMU will abort when
> > accessing the uninitialized monitor mutex.
> >
> > The critical monitor global data must be initialized from a
> > constructor function, to improve the guarantee that it is done
> > before any possible calls to monitor_cur(). Not only that, but
> > the constructor must be marked to run before the default
> > constructor in case any of them trigger error reporting.
>
> Is error reporting from constructors a good idea? I feel they're best
> used for simple initializations only.
When you're down in the weeds on a given piece of code it might
not occurr that it could be used in a constructor.
The biggest usage is QOM type registration, which we've obviously
been careful (lucky) enough to keep safe.
The other common use if initializing global mutexes.
I rather wish our mutex APIs supported a static initializer
like you get with pthreads and/or glib mutexes. That would
have avoided this ordernig problem.
>
> Do we actually do it?
Probably not, but I can't be that confident as I have not auditted
all constructors.
I accidentally created a problem myself by putting an error_report
call into the rcu constructor to debug something never realized
that would result in pain.
And then I put error_report into the RCU thread itself and thus
discovered that was running concurrently with other constructors.
> > Note in particular that the RCU constructor will spawn a background
> > thread so we might even have non-constructor QEMU code running
> > concurrently with other constructors.
>
> Ugh!
Indeed, that was my thought when discovernig this :-(
>
> Arguably
>
> Fixes: e69ee454b5f9 (monitor: Make current monitor a per-coroutine property)
>
> I never liked the @coroutine_mon hash table (which is what broke early
> monitor_cur()), but accepted it for want of better ideas.
I spent a little time wondering if we could replace coroutine_mon with
a "__thread Monitor cur' and then update that in monitor_set_cur, but
I couldn't convince myself it would be entirely safe. So for sake of
getting the series done I took this approach and left the current
monitor stuff for another day.
>
> > Reviewed-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
> > Reviewed-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dave@treblig.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
>
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-17 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 18:03 [PATCH v3 00/20] util: sync error_report & qemu_log output more closely Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] include: define constant for early constructor priority Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] monitor: initialize global data from a constructor Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 14:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-17 15:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-09-18 6:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] system: unconditionally enable thread naming Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 12:18 ` Ján Tomko
2025-09-19 8:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-19 13:32 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] util: expose qemu_thread_set_name Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-19 8:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-24 8:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] audio: make jackaudio use qemu_thread_set_name Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 13:21 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2025-09-12 14:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-19 8:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] util: set the name for the 'main' thread Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] util: add API to fetch the current thread name Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-19 8:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-19 9:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-19 11:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-23 12:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-24 8:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] log: avoid repeated prefix on incremental qemu_log calls Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 23:20 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-11 8:49 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-17 14:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-17 15:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-23 12:46 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-23 14:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-23 14:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-24 7:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-24 7:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-24 9:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-24 12:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-24 13:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] ui/vnc: remove use of error_printf_unless_qmp() Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 0:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-11 8:51 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-11 17:54 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-12 15:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-19 11:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] monitor: remove redundant error_[v]printf_unless_qmp Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 8:50 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-19 11:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-23 12:48 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] monitor: move error_vprintf() back to error-report.c Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 8:55 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-19 12:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-19 13:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] monitor: introduce monitor_cur_hmp() function Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 17:52 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-19 12:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-19 13:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-20 7:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-20 11:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-22 8:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-24 16:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] util: don't skip error prefixes when QMP is active Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-22 8:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] util: fix interleaving of error & trace output Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:01 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-11 18:05 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-12 16:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-22 12:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] util: introduce common helper for error-report & log code Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:02 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] util: convert error-report & log to message API for timestamp Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:04 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] util: add support for formatting a workload name in messages Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:06 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-11 20:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-12 8:34 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-12 11:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] util: add support for formatting a program " Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:07 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-11 18:08 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-12 16:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] util: add support for formatting thread info " Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:11 ` Richard Henderson
2025-09-12 8:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-10 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] util: add brackets around guest name in message context Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-11 18:12 ` Richard Henderson
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