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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] docs/devel: Do not unparent in instance_finalize()
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 16:03:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMxlpfp_LSgiIk9Z@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250917-use-v3-1-72c2a6887c6c@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp>

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 07:13:26PM +0900, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
> Children are automatically unparented so manually unparenting is
> unnecessary.
> 
> Worse, automatic unparenting happens before the instance_finalize()
> callback of the parent gets called, so object_unparent() calls in
> the callback will refer to objects that are already unparented, which
> is semantically incorrect.
> 
> Remove the instruction to call object_unparent(), and the exception
> of the "do not call object_unparent()" rule for instance_finalize().
> 
> Signed-off-by: Akihiko Odaki <odaki@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
> ---
>  docs/devel/memory.rst | 19 ++++++-------------
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/docs/devel/memory.rst b/docs/devel/memory.rst
> index 57fb2aec76e0..749f11d8a4dd 100644
> --- a/docs/devel/memory.rst
> +++ b/docs/devel/memory.rst
> @@ -161,18 +161,11 @@ or never.
>  Destruction of a memory region happens automatically when the owner
>  object dies.
>  
> -If however the memory region is part of a dynamically allocated data
> -structure, you should call object_unparent() to destroy the memory region
> -before the data structure is freed.  For an example see VFIOMSIXInfo
> -and VFIOQuirk in hw/vfio/pci.c.

Should we still keep some of these examples?  After the series they'll be
doing the right things.  Dynamic MRs are still slightly tricky, I think
it's still good to have some references.

> -
>  You must not destroy a memory region as long as it may be in use by a
>  device or CPU.  In order to do this, as a general rule do not create or
> -destroy memory regions dynamically during a device's lifetime, and only
> -call object_unparent() in the memory region owner's instance_finalize
> -callback.  The dynamically allocated data structure that contains the
> -memory region then should obviously be freed in the instance_finalize
> -callback as well.
> +destroy memory regions dynamically during a device's lifetime.
> +The dynamically allocated data structure that contains the
> +memory region should be freed in the instance_finalize callback.
>  
>  If you break this rule, the following situation can happen:
>  
> @@ -198,9 +191,9 @@ this exception is rarely necessary, and therefore it is discouraged,
>  but nevertheless it is used in a few places.
>  
>  For regions that "have no owner" (NULL is passed at creation time), the
> -machine object is actually used as the owner.  Since instance_finalize is
> -never called for the machine object, you must never call object_unparent
> -on regions that have no owner, unless they are aliases or containers.
> +machine object is actually used as the owner.  You must never call
> +object_unparent on regions that have no owner, unless they are aliases
> +or containers.

This looks like a completely separate change.  So we start to allow
machines to be finalized now?  I'm not familiar with machine object
lifecycles.  Maybe split it out even if it's true?

-- 
Peter Xu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-17 10:13 [PATCH v3 0/7] Do not unparent in instance_finalize() Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] docs/devel: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:24   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18 20:03   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-09-18 20:11     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19 10:46       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] vfio/pci: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] hw/core/register: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] hv-balloon: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:28   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] hw/sd/sdhci: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:31   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] vfio: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:32   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 10:13 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] hw/xen: " Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 16:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 11:57 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 12:24   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-17 13:17     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 13:23       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18 19:58         ` Peter Xu
2025-09-18 14:03 ` Peter Xu
2025-09-18 15:29   ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-09-18 16:20     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-18 18:23       ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19 10:49         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-09-23  8:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-24  4:57   ` Akihiko Odaki

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