From: Nicolin Chen via <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
To: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: Shameer Kolothum <skolothumtho@nvidia.com>, <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
<qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
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<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 22/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add support for ATS
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:13:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aP+oRLu/BYNaAPHG@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26f4d9b2-75be-4913-bb60-01e647a7ec83@redhat.com>
Hi Eric,
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 05:59:13PM +0100, Eric Auger wrote:
> On 9/29/25 3:36 PM, Shameer Kolothum wrote:
> > QEMU SMMUv3 does not enable ATS (Address Translation Services) by default.
> > When accelerated mode is enabled and the host SMMUv3 supports ATS, it can
> > be useful to report ATS capability to the guest so it can take advantage
> > of it if the device also supports ATS.
> >
> > Note: ATS support cannot be reliably detected from the host SMMUv3 IDR
> > registers alone, as firmware ACPI IORT tables may override them. The
> > user must therefore ensure the support before enabling it.
> This looks incomplete to me. ATS is a big topic in itself. I would
> prefer we do not advertise it until we do not have full support for it
> (including emulation). Comparing to
> c049bf5bb9dd ("intel_iommu: Add support for ATS") which was recently
> contributed we miss at least translation request implementations
> (PCIIOMMUOps ats_request_translation callback implementation).
>
> See:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250628180226.133285-11-clement.mathieu--drif@eviden.com/#r
In accelerated SMMUv3 case, ATS translation and invalidation are
done by the physical SMMU. Wondering why do we need this?
IIRC, intel is mixing their emulated translation and accelerated
one, and their pasid table is not integrated like SMMU's CD table
that we already passed entirely via the STE.
> Also in SMMU spec I see other stuff like STE.EATS, ATS skipping stage 1,
> ... Here I only see SMMU_CMD_ATC_INV and this is only implemented for
> accel. I think I would rather stick to the minimum in this series, ie.
> reject in case of ATS mismatch (for testing purpose you will just need a
> small hack until we get ATS support), work on ATS enablement in parallel
That SMMU_CMD_ATC_INV seems to be the only thing we need for ATS..
Thanks
Nicolin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-27 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 166+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-29 13:36 [PATCH v4 00/27] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 01/27] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_backend_alloc_viommu Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:35 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-17 12:21 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 02/27] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_vdev_alloc Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:40 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 17:52 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-30 8:14 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/27] hw/arm/smmu-common: Factor out common helper functions and export Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:43 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/27] hw/arm/smmu-common:Make iommu ops part of SMMUState Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:45 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 21:53 ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-10-01 16:11 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Introduce smmuv3 accel device Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:53 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 22:24 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-01 16:25 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Restrict accelerated SMMUv3 to vfio-pci endpoints with iommufd Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:08 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-30 8:03 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 16:38 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 8:16 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-30 0:11 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-02 7:29 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 17:32 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 9:30 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-17 12:47 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-17 13:15 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-17 17:19 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-20 16:31 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-20 18:25 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 18:59 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-21 15:28 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/27] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement get_viommu_cap() callback Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:13 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-01 17:36 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 9:38 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 12:31 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 9:39 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add set/unset_iommu_device callback Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:25 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-30 8:13 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 6:52 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 11:34 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 16:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-02 18:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-17 12:06 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 11:56 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 14:10 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-17 12:23 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Support nested STE install/uninstall support Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:41 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02 10:04 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 12:08 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 12:27 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Allocate a vDEVICE object for device Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:42 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-17 13:08 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/27] hw/pci/pci: Introduce optional get_msi_address_space() callback Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:48 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-16 22:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 16:14 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-20 18:00 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-21 16:26 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-21 18:56 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-22 16:25 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-22 16:56 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-20 16:21 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Make use of " Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:51 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02 7:33 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-16 23:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 16:43 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-21 8:15 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-21 16:16 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add support to issue invalidation cmd to host Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:53 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-16 22:59 ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-10-27 10:13 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 12:20 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 14:05 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Get host SMMUv3 hw info and validate Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 12:56 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02 7:37 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 9:54 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 10:41 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 12:23 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 10:46 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 12:24 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 15/27] acpi/gpex: Fix PCI Express Slot Information function 0 returned value Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 12:59 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02 7:39 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-21 15:32 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 16/27] hw/pci-host/gpex: Allow to generate preserve boot config DSM #5 Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:05 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 11:14 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 11:10 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 17/27] hw/arm/virt: Set PCI preserve_config for accel SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:06 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 11:21 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 18/27] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add IORT RMR regions to handle MSI nested binding Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:30 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 19/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Install S1 bypass hwpt on reset Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:32 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-16 23:19 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 14:22 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 14:26 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 14:51 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-29 4:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-29 18:19 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-30 5:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-30 7:35 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-30 13:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 16:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-27 14:22 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 20/27] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add accel property for SMMUv3 device Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-16 21:48 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-27 14:28 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 21/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add a property to specify RIL support Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:39 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-17 8:48 ` Zhangfei Gao
2025-10-17 9:40 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-17 14:05 ` Zhangfei Gao
2025-10-27 14:44 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 22/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add support for ATS Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:43 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 16:59 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 17:13 ` Nicolin Chen via [this message]
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2025-10-28 12:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 13:21 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 13:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 13:51 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 14:44 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-28 14:46 ` Eric Auger
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2025-10-28 15:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 17:54 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 18:02 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 14:03 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 17:13 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 23/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add property to specify OAS bits Shameer Kolothum
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2025-10-27 14:57 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 14:55 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 24/27] backends/iommufd: Retrieve PASID width from iommufd_backend_get_device_info() Shameer Kolothum
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2025-10-27 17:00 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 17:10 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 25/27] backends/iommufd: Add a callback helper to retrieve PASID support Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:52 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 17:28 ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 26/27] vfio: Synthesize vPASID capability to VM Shameer Kolothum
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2025-10-02 8:03 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 9:58 ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 27/27] hw.arm/smmuv3: Add support for PASID enable Shameer Kolothum
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2025-10-27 18:15 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 18:40 ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-28 10:31 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-17 6:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/27] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Zhangfei Gao
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