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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Bin Guo <guobin@linux.alibaba.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] migration: Don't free the reason after calling migrate_add_blocker
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:25:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aP9IqYzAea1DUjqp@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a51gdv4m.fsf@suse.de>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 03:15:05PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 12:17:20PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 04:08:39PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> > Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:
> >> > 
> >> > > Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> >> > 
> >> > [...]
> >> > 
> >> > >> But wow, the migrate_add_blocker API design is unpleasant with its
> >> > >> pair of "Error **" parameters - it is practically designed to
> >> > >> maximise confusion & surprise.
> >> > >
> >> > > It's quite a sight, isn't it?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll give it a quick Friday afternoon try.
> >> > 
> >> > Alright, my confusion has been maximised.  Giving up on this.
> >> 
> >> Besides the use of two Error** that might be confusing, what is more
> >> confusing (if not wrong..): migrate_add_blocker() will take ownership of
> >> the 1st Error**, no matter whether the helper succeeded or not. However, it
> >> only resets the first Error** if failed.
> >> 
> >> I think it means if migrate_add_blocker() succeeded, the caller will have a
> >> non-NULL pointer, even if it has lost the ownership of that pointer.
> >> 
> >> I'm guessing it never caused issue only because we don't usually
> >> error_free() the migration blocker anywhere.. but I think maybe we should
> >> at least do an error_copy() in add_blockers()..
> >
> > IMHO we should not even be using an Error object for the the blocker.
> > AFAICT, internally all we care about is the formatted string. The main
> > reason for using an Error object appears to be to have a convenient
> > pointer to use as an identifier to later pass to del_blocker.
> >
> > I'd be inclined to just have passed in a fixed string, and return an
> > integer identifier for the blocker. eg
> >
> >     int64 migrate_add_blocker(const char *reason, Error **errp);
> >
> >     void migrate_del_blocker(int64 blockerid);
> >
> > The migrate_add_blocker method would strdup(reason) to keep its own
> > copy.
> >
> > The usage would thus be clear & simple:
> >
> >     int64 blockerid = migrate_add_blocker("cannot migrate vfio", errp);
> >     if (!blockerid) {
> >          return;
> >     }
> >
> >     ... some time later...
> >
> >     migrate_del_blocker(blockerid);
> >
> >
> > In some cases we needed dynamically formatted strings, which could have
> > been achieved thus:
> >
> >     g_autofree char *msg = g_strdup_printf("cannot migrate vfio %d", blah);
> >     int64 blockerid = migrate_add_blocker(msg, errp);
> >     ...the rest as above...
> >
> > yes, this costs an extra strdup(), but that is an acceptable & negligible
> > overhead in the context in which we're doing this.
> >
> 
> Hmm, I must disagree. This is more complex than what we have
> today. Calling error_setg(err, "msg") is pretty standard, already gives
> us formatting and keeps all (potentially) user-facing messages uniform.

IMHO this usage in migration is not really about error reporting
though, and the lifecycle ownership of the Error objects in this
migration usage is very diferent from the typical lifecycle
ownership of Error objects used in reporting errors, which I think
leads to a surprising / unusual API.

> Asking for people to deal with strings and storing an int64 in their
> code is not improving the situation. Besides, the Error is already used
> by the block layer when blocking operations, for instance. If anything
> we should be integrating the two usages instead of inventing yet another
> for the migration code. See:

Yes, having a common API for these two similar use cases would be
a useful thing. I'm just not convinced we should be (mis|re)using
the Error object for either of these two situations.

> 
> replication.c:
>   error_setg(&s->blocker,
>              "Block device is in use by internal backup job");
>   ...
>   bdrv_op_block_all(top_bs, s->blocker);
> 
> block.c:
>   void bdrv_op_block(BlockDriverState *bs, BlockOpType op, Error *reason)
>   {
>       BdrvOpBlocker *blocker;
>       assert((int) op >= 0 && op < BLOCK_OP_TYPE_MAX);
> 
>       blocker = g_new0(BdrvOpBlocker, 1);
>       blocker->reason = reason;
>       QLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&bs->op_blockers[op], blocker, list);
> }


With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-27 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-24  9:28 [PATCH] migration: Don't free the reason after calling migrate_add_blocker Bin Guo
2025-10-24 11:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-10-24 11:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-24 13:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-10-24 14:08       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-10-24 16:17         ` Peter Xu
2025-10-24 16:31           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-24 18:15             ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-10-27 10:25               ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-10-27 12:32                 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-10-27 13:54                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-10-24 11:53   ` Bin Guo
2025-10-24 13:40     ` Markus Armbruster

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