From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Chalios, Babis" <bchalios@amazon.es>
Cc: "mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
"imammedo@redhat.com" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>, "Graf (AWS),
Alexander" <graf@amazon.de>,
"mzxreary@0pointer.de" <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] hw/acpi: add VM generation counter field to VMClock
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 14:12:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aS2iOER6KBMMtJ0X@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251201125023.18344-5-bchalios@amazon.es>
On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 12:51:10PM +0000, Chalios, Babis wrote:
> The final published version of the VMClock specification adds support
> for an extra vm_generation_counter field which allows hypervisors to
> differentiate between live migration and snapshot loading events. During
> the latter, apart from adjusting clocks, guests might want to take
> further actions such as resetting network devices, updating UUIDs,
> reseeding entropy pools, etc.
>
> VM generation counter itself is stored in the guest memory region and
> exposed to guest userspace, so we don't need to serialize it within
> vmstate_vmclock as well.
>
> Signed-off-by: Babis Chalios <bchalios@amazon.es>
> ---
> hw/acpi/vmclock.c | 13 +++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/hw/acpi/vmclock.c b/hw/acpi/vmclock.c
> index c582c0c1f8..47cbba4496 100644
> --- a/hw/acpi/vmclock.c
> +++ b/hw/acpi/vmclock.c
> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> #include "hw/qdev-properties.h"
> #include "hw/qdev-properties-system.h"
> #include "migration/vmstate.h"
> +#include "migration/misc.h"
> #include "system/reset.h"
>
> #include "standard-headers/linux/vmclock-abi.h"
> @@ -64,6 +65,7 @@ void vmclock_build_acpi(VmclockState *vms, GArray *table_data,
> static void vmclock_update_guest(VmclockState *vms)
> {
> uint64_t disruption_marker;
> + uint64_t vm_generation_counter;
> uint32_t seq_count;
>
> if (!vms->clk) {
> @@ -79,6 +81,16 @@ static void vmclock_update_guest(VmclockState *vms)
> disruption_marker++;
> vms->clk->disruption_marker = cpu_to_le64(disruption_marker);
>
> + /*
> + * We only increase the vm_generation_counter when loading from a snapshot,
> + * not during live migration
> + */
> + if (!migration_is_running()) {
> + vm_generation_counter = le64_to_cpu(vms->clk->vm_generation_counter);
> + vm_generation_counter++;
> + vms->clk->vm_generation_counter = cpu_to_le64(vm_generation_counter);
> + }
I don't believe this conditional works. Run it with
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio -device vmclock
(qemu) migrate tcp:localhost:9000
and
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio -device vmclock -incoming tcp:localhost:9000
and the vm_generation_counter always gets updated on every migrate
operation.
'migration_is_running()' is always returning 'false' when this callback
is triggered on the target.
Even if it were to return 'true' as this code expects, this would not
allow to distinguish between snapshots and live migration. The QEMU
"migrate" / "migrate-incoming" commands are used by mgmt apps to
implement snapshots. From QEMU's POV, live migration and snapshots
are indistiguishable operations, both using the same functionaility.
eg
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio -device vmclock
(qemu) migrate file:snapshot.img
and
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio -device vmclock -incoming file:snapshot.img
and we can't check the QEMU migration target being "file:" and mgmt
apps can use the "fd:" protocol to pass in a pre-opened target which can
be a socket or pipe or file.
Only the mgmt app knows if this is for a snapshot or a live migration or
something else.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-01 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-01 12:50 [RFC PATCH 0/4] vmclock: add support for VM generation counter and notifications Chalios, Babis
2025-12-01 12:50 ` Chalios, Babis
2025-12-01 12:52 ` Babis Chalios
2025-12-01 12:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] acpi: fix acpi_send_gpe_event() to handle more events Chalios, Babis
2025-12-01 12:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] hw/acpi: add new fields in VMClock ABI Chalios, Babis
2025-12-01 13:04 ` Cornelia Huck
2025-12-01 13:11 ` Babis Chalios
2025-12-01 13:36 ` Cornelia Huck
2025-12-01 13:24 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-01 13:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2025-12-01 14:27 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-01 15:05 ` Babis Chalios
2025-12-01 15:21 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-01 15:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2025-12-01 12:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] hw/acpi: add VM generation counter field to VMClock Chalios, Babis
2025-12-01 14:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-12-01 14:29 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-01 14:41 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-12-01 15:01 ` Babis Chalios
2025-12-01 15:28 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-01 12:51 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] hw/acpi: add ACPI notification to VMClock device Chalios, Babis
2025-12-01 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] vmclock: add support for VM generation counter and notifications Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-12-01 15:23 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-01 15:46 ` Babis Chalios
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