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From: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"BALATON Zoltan" <balaton@eik.bme.hu>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.caveayland@nutanix.com>,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	"Zide Chen" <zide.chen@intel.com>,
	"Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, devel@lists.libvirt.org,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/21] hw/core/qdev-properties: allow qdev properties accept flags
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 21:52:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa7QngAWMaspv6Gu@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877brpjof7.fsf@pond.sub.org>

> Not entirely true.
> 
> QAPI/QMP uses special feature flag @deprecated, i.e. a boolean.
> 
> We cannot emit a "user facing message": QMP cannot transport warnings.
> We could at best log one, in the hope that the user finds it.  But we
> don't.
> 
> Instead the deprecation note is in the documentation.
> 
> The deprecation flag is visible in QAPI/QMP introspection.  Management
> application developers need this; see Peter Krempa's reply.
> 
> QEMU can be configured to reject input that makes use of deprecated
> stuff, and to hide deprecated stuff in output.  This is intended for
> "testing the future".

I think a way is to add 'deprecated' flag (bool) in ObjectPropertyInfo,
just like CpuDefinitionInfo did. Then only when property has a
deprecation_note string, the 'deprecated' flag will be set for QAPI/QMP
query.

> >> Yes, rich deprecation hint is better. I think this still depends on
> >> USER_SET - distinguish internal/external or not :-(.
> >> 
> >> Since when we mark a property as deprecated, its code remains in the
> >> code tree, and internal calls should not trigger warnings. Deprecation
> >> hints are intended to reminder external users.
> >
> > This depends on where you put the deprecation check. IIUC, all the user
> > facing codepaths for setting properties end up calling through
> > object_set_properties_from_qdict, but internal codepaths don't use that.
> 
> This may well be true (I didn't check), but how can we ensure it remains
> true?

Perhaps this interface requires documentation - and strongly caution that
it *should not* be used for internal calls. Might this help prevent
potential misuse?

Thanks,
Zhao



  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-09 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10  3:23 [PATCH v2 00/21] qom: introduce property flags to track external user input Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/21] qom/object: use BIT macro for ObjectPropertyFlags Zhao Liu
2026-03-20  9:53   ` Thomas Huth
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/21] qom/object: cache ObjectPropertyFlags in ObjectProperty Zhao Liu
2026-03-20  9:53   ` Thomas Huth
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/21] qom/object: factor out object_class_property_try_add() Zhao Liu
2026-02-10 14:41   ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-02-11  7:14     ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/21] qom/object: add flags argument in object_{class_}property_try_add() Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/21] qom/object: rename object_{class_}property_try_add() to object_{class_}property_add_full() Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/21] qom/object: add helpers to set/get/clear property flags Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/21] qom/object: introduce user interaction flags for properties Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  9:49   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-10  9:58     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-11  8:19       ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-10 14:44   ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-02-11  7:22     ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/21] qom/object: add from_user argument in object_property_parse() Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/21] qom/object: mark global property set from CLI as USER_SET Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/21] qom/qom-hmp-cmd: mark properties set from HMP (non-JSON) "qom-set" " Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/21] qom/qom-qmp-cmd: mark properties set from QMP/HMP (JSON) " Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 12/21] qom/object_interfaces: mark properties set from qdict & keyval " Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 13/21] system/vl: mark property set in object_parse_property_opt() " Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 14/21] hw/core/qdev-properties: allow qdev properties accept flags Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  9:41   ` Peter Krempa
2026-02-11  7:10     ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  9:56   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-11  7:30     ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-11 16:58       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-12 15:25         ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-12 15:42           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-03-09 13:34             ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-18  9:51         ` Igor Mammedov
2026-03-06  9:14           ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-06  9:19             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-03-06  9:30         ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-09 13:52           ` Zhao Liu [this message]
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 15/21] target/i386: deprecate fill-mtrr-mask property Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 16/21] target/i386: deprecate cpuid-0xb property Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 17/21] hw/intc/ioapic: deprecate version property Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 18/21] target/i386: mark x-consistent-cache property as internal-only Zhao Liu
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 19/21] target/i386: remove redundant validation for lbr-fmt property Zhao Liu
2026-03-13 22:34   ` Chen, Zide
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 20/21] target/i386: detect user provided lbr-fmt via property flag Zhao Liu
2026-03-13 22:36   ` Chen, Zide
2026-02-10  3:23 ` [PATCH v2 21/21] hw/core/qdev-properties: support valid default value for DEFINE_PROP_UINT64_CHECKMASK Zhao Liu
2026-03-13 22:36   ` Chen, Zide
2026-02-10 10:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/21] qom: introduce property flags to track external user input Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-10 10:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-10 11:00     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-10 15:00       ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-02-10 15:28   ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-10 15:16     ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-02-11  7:24       ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-11 11:28         ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-02-12 15:31           ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-12 15:56             ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-02-10 15:41     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-11  7:06       ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-11 11:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-03-11 13:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-11 13:14   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-03-11 13:38     ` Peter Krempa
2026-03-16 15:43     ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-16 16:05       ` BALATON Zoltan
2026-03-16 18:00         ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-20 10:09       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-03-23 15:37       ` Kevin Wolf

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