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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Shameerali Kolothum Thodi"
	<shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Shannon Zhao" <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] memory: Don't allow to resize RAM while migrating
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:26:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab0c4b8f-c18b-cf02-282a-eb968bb6677e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200214181146.GE1163818@xz-x1>

On 14.02.20 19:11, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 06:32:35PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 14.02.20 18:29, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 01:02:46PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> From c0049ac2e95d6756037db918852c507fb88297d9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>>>> From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:01:03 +0100
>>>> Subject: [PATCH v1] tmp
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  migration/migration.c |  9 +++++++--
>>>>  migration/migration.h |  1 +
>>>>  migration/ram.c       | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  3 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/migration/migration.c b/migration/migration.c
>>>> index 3a21a4686c..0e7efe2920 100644
>>>> --- a/migration/migration.c
>>>> +++ b/migration/migration.c
>>>> @@ -175,13 +175,18 @@ void migration_object_init(void)
>>>>      }
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>> +void migration_cancel(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    migrate_fd_cancel(current_migration);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>>  void migration_shutdown(void)
>>>>  {
>>>>      /*
>>>>       * Cancel the current migration - that will (eventually)
>>>>       * stop the migration using this structure
>>>>       */
>>>> -    migrate_fd_cancel(current_migration);
>>>> +    migration_cancel();
>>>>      object_unref(OBJECT(current_migration));
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>> @@ -2019,7 +2024,7 @@ void qmp_migrate(const char *uri, bool has_blk, bool blk,
>>>>  
>>>>  void qmp_migrate_cancel(Error **errp)
>>>>  {
>>>> -    migrate_fd_cancel(migrate_get_current());
>>>> +    migration_cancel();
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>>  void qmp_migrate_continue(MigrationStatus state, Error **errp)
>>>> diff --git a/migration/migration.h b/migration/migration.h
>>>> index 8473ddfc88..79fd74afa5 100644
>>>> --- a/migration/migration.h
>>>> +++ b/migration/migration.h
>>>> @@ -343,5 +343,6 @@ int foreach_not_ignored_block(RAMBlockIterFunc func, void *opaque);
>>>>  void migration_make_urgent_request(void);
>>>>  void migration_consume_urgent_request(void);
>>>>  bool migration_rate_limit(void);
>>>> +void migration_cancel(void);
>>>>  
>>>>  #endif
>>>> diff --git a/migration/ram.c b/migration/ram.c
>>>> index ed23ed1c7c..f86f32b453 100644
>>>> --- a/migration/ram.c
>>>> +++ b/migration/ram.c
>>>> @@ -52,6 +52,7 @@
>>>>  #include "migration/colo.h"
>>>>  #include "block.h"
>>>>  #include "sysemu/sysemu.h"
>>>> +#include "sysemu/runstate.h"
>>>>  #include "savevm.h"
>>>>  #include "qemu/iov.h"
>>>>  #include "multifd.h"
>>>> @@ -3710,8 +3711,49 @@ static SaveVMHandlers savevm_ram_handlers = {
>>>>      .resume_prepare = ram_resume_prepare,
>>>>  };
>>>>  
>>>> +static void ram_mig_ram_block_resized(RAMBlockNotifier *n, void *host,
>>>> +                                      size_t old_size, size_t new_size)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * We don't care about resizes triggered on incoming migration (when
>>>> +     * syncing ram blocks), or of course, when no migration is going on.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    if (migration_is_idle() || !runstate_is_running()) {
>>>> +        return;
>>>> +    }
>>>
>>> I feel like migration_is_idle() check is enough.  Firstly, I feel like
>>> we allow migration even with VM stopped.  At the meantime, if VM is
>>> not running, I see no reason that this resizing will happen after all? :)
>>
>> Migration code resizes ram blocks when synchronizing the ram state. See
>> qemu_ram_resize() in ram_load_precopy()
>>
>> That happens on incoming migration while the vm is stopped.
> 
> Ah so your comment is for that which I misread.  I'm surprised even
> the incoming migration will set MigrationState and migration_is_idle()

I was already surprised by that :) And states are not well document
(IOW, not documented)

> will return false for it, since we've got MigrationIncomingState after
> all.  But yeh that seems to be correct.
> 
> Then it seems fine.  It's just a bit unclear even with the comment.
> Another alternative is we only register this resize() hook when
> migration starts, and unregister it when stopped.  Then we can even
> drop the migration_is_idle().

Yeah, I prefer the current code because its simpler (and I don't have to
worry about races when registering/unregistering notifiers, because
locking in combination with migration is still a big puzzle to me)

I'll try to make the comment clearer, thanks!

> 
>>
>>>
>>>> +
>>>> +    if (!postcopy_is_running()) {
>>>> +        Error *err = NULL;
>>>> +
>>>> +        /*
>>>> +         * Precopy code cannot deal with the size of ram blocks changing at
>>>> +         * random points in time. We're still running on the source, abort
>>>> +         * the migration and continue running here. Make sure to wait until
>>>> +         * migration was canceled.
>>>> +         */
>>>> +        error_setg(&err, "RAM resized during precopy.");
>>>> +        migrate_set_error(migrate_get_current(), err);
>>>> +        error_free(err);
>>>> +        migration_cancel();
>>>> +    } else {
>>>> +        /*
>>>> +         * Postcopy code cannot deal with the size of ram blocks changing at
>>>> +         * random points in time. We're running on the target. Fail hard.
>>>> +         *
>>>> +         * TODO: How to handle this in a better way?
>>>> +         */
>>>> +        error_report("RAM resized during postcopy.");
>>>> +        exit(-1);
>>>
>>> Now I'm rethinking the postcopy case....
>>>
>>> ram_dirty_bitmap_reload() should only happen during the postcopy
>>> recovery, and when that happens the VM should be stopped on both
>>> sides.  Which means, ram resizing should not trigger there...
>>
>> But that guest got the chance to run for a bit and eventually reboot
>> AFAIK. Also, there are other data races possible when used_length
>> suddenly changes, this is just the most obvious one where things will;
>> get screwed up.
> 
> Right, the major one could be in ram_load_postcopy() where we call
> host_from_ram_block_offset().  However if FW extension is the major
> use case then it seems to still work (still better than crashing,
> isn't it? :).

"Let's close our eyes and hope it will never happen" ? :) No, I don't
like that. This screams for a better solution long term, and until then
a proper fencing IMHO. We're making here wild guesses about data races
and why they might not be that bad in certain cases (did I mention
load/store tearing? used_length is not an atomic value ...).

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-14 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-13 17:20 [PATCH RFC] memory: Don't allow to resize RAM while migrating David Hildenbrand
2020-02-13 18:32 ` Peter Xu
2020-02-13 19:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-13 20:56     ` Peter Xu
2020-02-14  9:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 15:56         ` Peter Xu
2020-02-14 16:45           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-13 19:09 ` Juan Quintela
2020-02-13 19:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 10:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-14 10:32   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 10:42     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-14 10:46       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 11:02         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-14 11:08           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 12:02             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 12:46               ` Juan Quintela
2020-02-14 14:00                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 15:14                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-14 17:29               ` Peter Xu
2020-02-14 17:32                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 18:11                   ` Peter Xu
2020-02-14 18:26                     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-02-14 19:44                       ` Peter Xu
2020-02-14 20:04                         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 20:38                           ` Peter Xu

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