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From: Geoffrey McRae <geoff@hostfission.com>
To: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "José Pekkarinen" <koalinux@gmail.com>,
	kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Autoconnect jack ports by default
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:38:24 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab566e57c5ec57e857834d7a70d4dfde@hostfission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31652865.Htn8XJslzA@silver>

While I get where you're coming from, those using QEMU with Jack are 
already advanced users that are used to reading technical documentation. 
Having our one client do something that is unexpected/different would 
not only confuse existing Jack users but also anyone following any 
guides/documentation on how to use a generic jack client. IMO the better 
solution here is simply better documentation, perhaps even a known 
working sample setup.

On 2021-02-25 09:33, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021 23:04:47 CET Geoffrey McRae wrote:
>> This goes against how all standard jack clients work, a new jack 
>> client
>> should not auto-connect at all unless explicitly configured to as if
>> there is an existing audio diagram configured (which is 99% of the 
>> time)
>> it will cause unexpected/undesired behavior.
>> 
>> Jack is not supposed to be an 'automatic' system, it's the
>> responsibility of the patch bay software to route connections.
>> 
>> The auto-connect feature exists to allow the jack audiodev to 
>> re-connect
>> a broken connection when the jack device restarts/reconnects.
> 
> Well, that was also my idea first, and I would agree with you in case 
> of a
> regular music app of course, but then I thought QEMU is probably not an
> average JACK client, and it simply lowers the entry level for new users 
> who
> probably just want to output to system out anyway.
> 
> I mean, are you piping QEMU into Ardour or something Geoffrey?
> 
> This could still be overridden by passing a bogus pattern with argument
> "connect-ports" for people who prefer the patchbay approach in the end.

Sorry but this is a kludge to reverse another kludge, I really don't 
think this is a good way to go.

> 
> So I would vote for the "make it easy for newbies" approach in this 
> case, but
> I leave that up to you and Gerd to decide. :)
> 
> Best regards,
> Christian Schoenebeck


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-24 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-24 19:19 [PATCH v2] Autoconnect jack ports by default José Pekkarinen
2021-02-24 19:39 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-24 22:04   ` Geoffrey McRae
2021-02-24 22:33     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-24 22:38       ` Geoffrey McRae [this message]
2021-02-25  8:31         ` José Ramón Muñoz Pekkarinen
2021-02-25  8:48       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-02-26 11:40         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-03-03  7:13           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-03-04 11:24             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-03-04 11:56               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-04 13:12                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-03-04 13:53                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-04 14:12                     ` Gerd Hoffmann

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