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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=pbonzini@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.513, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 9/29/25 11:35, Kevin Wolf wrote: >> It's mentioned earlier, since the responsibility is not limited to >> exceptions: "To satisfy the DCO, the patch contributor has to fully >> understand the copyright and license status of content they are contributing >> to QEMU". I find this sentence to be already a bit heavy, and would prefer >> not to make it longer. > > Isn't the whole paragraph meant to say that exceptions don't make any of > earlier mentioned requirements go away? So I don't think it would be > redundant in this context, even though of course it would repeat the > requirement just to tell more specifically what it's referring to. Even though this section is specifically about generated content exceptions, requirements are not limited to the DCO. Of the other practices in the file, "where an automated manipulation is performed on code, however, this should be declared in the commit message" is an important one in this context. The fourth and more controversial patch in the RFC included text about providing the prompt and, while it is premature to have it now, I can imagine this paragraph becoming a bullet list: ---- Exceptions do not remove the need for authors to comply with all other requirements for contribution. In particular: - the "Signed-off-by" label in a patch submission is a statement that the author takes responsibility for the entire contents of the patch, including any parts that were generated or assisted by AI tools or other tools. - it is highly encouraged to provide background information such as the prompts that were used, and to not mix AI- and human-written code in the same commit, as much as possible. --- Also, for lack of a better place, this sentence about requirements could even extend to those spelled out by submitting-a-patch.rst. For example, "use the QEMU coding style", "split up long patches", "don't include irrelevant changes", "write a meaningful commit message" all serve as indicators that contributors have properly reviewed and understood any generated output. I like the idea that the concerns are split between the exception process (assessing risk in general) and regular review (assessing code quality of specific contributions). Either way, I agree that there is room for clarifying the policy even further. Thanks, Paolo > If you don't want to say "copyright or license status" here, referring > to "DCO requirements" would have the same effect (because we do have > the explanation you quoted). > > Kevin > > >