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[173.198.77.219]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2-20020a17090a0d4200b0023493354f37sm3227617pju.26.2023.02.17.10.22.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:22:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:22:43 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit host systems Content-Language: en-US To: Reinoud Zandijk , Markus Armbruster Cc: Thomas Huth , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell , Stefan Hajnoczi , libvir-list@redhat.com, Paolo Bonzini , Daniel Berrange , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= , Ryo ONODERA , Brad Smith , Stefan Weil References: <20230130114428.1297295-1-thuth@redhat.com> <87a61cbmti.fsf@pond.sub.org> From: Richard Henderson In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::636; envelope-from=richard.henderson@linaro.org; helo=mail-pl1-x636.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.256, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 2/17/23 06:06, Reinoud Zandijk wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion. >> >> I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome >> here. >> >> Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why? > > NetBSD runs on a bunch of 32 bit-only hosts (sparc32, ppc32, armv7, vax, > mips32 etc.) that all run Qemu fine. They are all actively maintained and > released as part of the main releases. Are you sure about that? TCG doesn't support sparc32 or vax. I suppose you could be using TCI, but I can't even imagine how slow that would be on vax. r~