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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: "Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.markovic@imgtec.com>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Future of SoftFloat use in QEMU
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 17:58:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <addc4f06-5554-0a8c-b651-3c921a148bfb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170508153625.y7jhzv32go5fzlwh@aurel32.net>

On 08.05.2017 17:36, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2017-05-08 15:58, Alex Bennée wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We've got a task coming up to implement half-precision floating point
>> (FP16) for ARMv8.2. As you know pretty much all our floating point in
>> QEMU is handled by our internal fork of John R. Hauser's BSD SoftFloat
>> library. Our current implementation is based on version 2a which doesn't
>> support FP16.
>>
>> As it happens there has been a new release of SoftFloat recently.
>> Version 3 is a complete re-write which made a number of changes, some
>> notable ones being:
>>
>>   - Complete rewrite, different use license than earlier releases.
>>   - Renaming most types and functions, upgrading some algorithms
>>     - restructuring the source files, and making SoftFloat into a true library.
>>   - Added functions to convert between floating-point and unsigned integers, both 32-bit and 64-bit (uint32_t and uint64_t).
>>   - Added functions for fused multiply-add, for all supported floating-point formats except 80-bit double-extended-precision.
>>   - Added support for a fifth rounding mode, near_maxMag (round to nearest, with ties to maximum magnitude, away from zero).
>>
>> And in the most recent release as of February 2017, 3c:
>>
>>   - Added optional rounding mode odd (round to odd, also known as jamming).
>>   - Implemented the common 16-bit “half-precision” floating-point format (float16_t)
>>
>> See: http://www.jhauser.us/arithmetic/SoftFloat-3c/doc/SoftFloat-history.html
>>
>> Of course the softfloat in QEMU's tree hasn't been static either. We've
>> made numerous changes over the years to add and fix various features,
>> including features that have since been added to the upstream softfloat.
>> It seems unlikely we could switch to the newer softfloat without risking
>> breaking something. However if we look at back-porting stuff from the
>> newer library we essentially get to own our version of softfloat
>> forever.
> 
> There have been many many changes in our forked version of softfloat:
> qNaN/sNaN, IEEE754-2008 functions, squash input denormal, many floatx80
> fixes, ...

Note that we've apparently also got plenty of bugs in our version of
softloat left, for example:

- https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/645662
- http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2017-05/msg00187.html

... would be interesting to know whether such issues are fixed with the
newer version of softfloat...

 Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-08 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-08 14:58 [Qemu-devel] Future of SoftFloat use in QEMU Alex Bennée
2017-05-08 15:13 ` Eric Blake
2017-05-08 15:36 ` Aurelien Jarno
2017-05-08 15:58   ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2017-05-08 21:45     ` Aurelien Jarno
2017-05-08 15:46 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-09  1:56 ` Richard Henderson
2017-05-30  9:40   ` Peter Maydell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-05-11 13:01 G 3

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