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From: Christopher Pereira <kripper@imatronix.cl>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Compact backing chain (sparsify + compress)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 23:31:16 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aea951a3-6e83-4ec1-b287-4d7dba14b674@imatronix.cl> (raw)

Hi,

I would like to revisit this old thread from 2016 with a special use 
case that I believe should be a standard `virsh` command:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-12/msg03571.html

**Summary:**

Given this QEMU backing chain:
`base <- snap1 <- snap2 <- snap3 (active)`

We want to merge `base <- snap1 <- snap2` into a new snapshot 
`collapsed-base` that is:
1. Sparsified (`virt-sparsify`)
2. Compressed

The resulting backing chain would be:
`collapsed-base <- snap3 (active)`

**Motivation:**

- We perform daily backup snapshots and never modify existing files (too 
dangerous). We only rebase.
- We collapse older chains into a new `collapsed-base` snapshot to limit 
chain size and avoid performance degradation.

We have been doing this successfully for over 10 years using:

- `qemu-img convert`
- `virt-sparsify`
- `virsh save`
- `qemu-img rebase`
- `virsh resume`

**Problems:**

- There is a small downtime due to `virsh save`/`resume`.
- In recent QEMU versions, `virsh` adds a `backingStore` tag to the XML 
even when using the `--no-metadata` option. This causes inconsistencies 
after `qemu-img rebase`.

We didn’t use QMP because it didn’t support sparsify + compression in 
the past.

**Questions:**

- Is there now a better way to achieve this?
- Could this feature be implemented or supported directly in `virsh`?

In my opinion, this would be the ideal backup solution: we could travel 
in time, sync immutable snapshots to a remote backup server, and 
maintain performance.



             reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10  2:31 Christopher Pereira [this message]
2025-11-10  6:07 ` Compact backing chain (sparsify + compress) Markus Armbruster
2025-11-10  9:53   ` Peter Krempa

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