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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: Nick Renieris <makren67@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] AVX support for TCG
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 07:24:23 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeeb8c50-0293-e37b-9f9f-5d392b7e10f6@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAObpvQmejWBh+RNz2vhk16-kcY_QveM_pSmM5ZeWqWv1d8AJzQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/18 12:43 AM, Nick Renieris wrote:
>>> Do you think this could work as a GSoC project? I'm potentially
>>> interested in working on it this summer.
> 
>> Could be.  My first guess is something like 4 months work for this.
> 
> Four months full-time? If so I would say it's not viable for a GSoC
> project (it's 3 months), I've done the 12-hours-a-day-crunch thing for
> a week or so in GSoC 2017 and it was _not_ fun.
> Also, I hope you meant four months for me, not for you - I'm
> completely new to the QEMU codebase. I expect it will take me weeks
> just to understand x86's 'translate.c' (who thought it'd be a good
> idea to put all this stuff in _one_ file?).

I did have a beginner in mind when guessing 4 months.  Don't take that as a
fully speced out answer, but it may well be that full avx2 support cannot be
done within the 3 months of gsoc.  I would certainly expect avx512 to take even
longer.

> Another question, are there existing discussions about this
> refactoring effort or specifically AVX? I asked a similar question on
> IRC a few days ago and got no answers.

Not that I recall.  I have some code at

https://github.com/rth7680/qemu/commits/i386-avx

that attempts to remove the sse_op_table(s).  However, it also splits up the
sse operations into units of uint64_t.  Which seemed sort of reasonable at the
time, considering that a lot of sse is 2*mmx.

But in the intervening 2.5 years since I worked on that branch, we have learned
that calls to helpers dominate.  It's better to have a single call that does 4x
the work than 4 separate calls.

The tcg-op-gvec.h infrastructure allows for the different modes that avx+mmx
allows:

(1) 64-bit operations,
(2) 128-bit operations, modifying only the low 128 bits,
(3) 128-bit operations, zeroing bits beyond the first 128,
(4) N*128-bit operations, zeroing bits beyond the first N*128.

so we should not need a great proliferation of helper functions, merely a
re-organization of what we have now.


r~

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-29 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-25 23:43 [Qemu-devel] AVX support for TCG Nick Renieris
2018-12-26  1:07 ` Richard Henderson
2018-12-26  1:28   ` Nick Renieris
2018-12-26  2:12     ` Richard Henderson
2018-12-28 13:43       ` Nick Renieris
2018-12-28 14:13         ` Peter Maydell
2018-12-28 14:28           ` Nick Renieris
2018-12-28 14:38             ` Peter Maydell
2018-12-28 17:19               ` Nick Renieris
2018-12-28 21:15         ` Alex Bennée
2018-12-29 20:24         ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2018-12-30 20:51           ` Nick Renieris
2018-12-31  1:58             ` Richard Henderson
2019-01-04 21:43               ` Nick Renieris
2019-01-04 21:51                 ` Richard Henderson
2019-01-04 22:09                   ` Nick Renieris
2019-01-04 22:14                     ` Richard Henderson
2019-01-04 22:33                       ` Nick Renieris
2019-01-04 22:38                         ` Richard Henderson
2019-01-04 22:42                           ` Nick Renieris
2019-01-17  9:29     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-01-17 13:57       ` Nick Renieris
2019-01-18  9:57         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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