From: malc <av1474@comtv.ru>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho <miguel.filho@gmail.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] CODING_STYLE amendments
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:39:11 +0400 (MSD) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1008222238010.3965@linmac> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=_1pe53y=ZWYo-PVVzFcaYqm-2U2tpY8gg-YTD@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Blue Swirl wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 08/21/10 12:47, Blue Swirl wrote:
> >> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> Unless you mass-convert existing code to your style, tools working on
> >>> source files won't cut it, because reports of the patch's style
> >>> violations are prone to drown in a sea of reports of preexisting style
> >>> violations. There's a reason why Linux's scrtips/checkpatch.pl works on
> >>> patch files.
> >>
> >> Mass conversion would have the benefit that submitters, who use old
> >> code as their reference, are more likely to use the correct style.
> >
> > Problem with mass conversion is that it becomes really hard to track
> > changes for debugging. While it would be nice to get all code to look
> > the 'right way<tm>' in a snap, then I think it will cause more harm than
> > good.
>
> Well, consider for example mass braces conversion to the One Style,
> whichever that is. Would it be better to do it in one commit or
> multiple commits? If the latter, push all commits back-to-back or just
> one at a time now and then?
>
> At the extreme end, we could even convert one statement per commit.
> This would make bug hunting with git bisect extremely precise. There
> would be a cost of long commit log.
>
> For the patch submitters, wouldn't one shot conversion (with one push,
> one or many commits) be less painful?
>
> >>> I still think inventing yet another idiosyncratic coding style plus
> >>> tools to enforce it is a waste of time.
> >>
> >> There are historical reasons for the style used in the current code
> >> base. There are also reasons why CODING_STYLE was written like it
> >> stands now.
> >
> > Yes, it's a classic case, there is always the historical side and
> > personal bios for why it was written the way it is. Often this is goes
> > back to personal preference rather than reason :( IMHO it isn't such a
> > big issue what the style is, as long as it is consistent and efficient.
> > The problem with the style we have now is that is is totally
> > inconsistent
>
> Fully agree.
>
> > and has elements making it harder to debug the code, like
> > the braces around single line if statements.
>
> What's the problem?
Disregarding my own stance on the braces, braces around single statement
is actually helpful w.r.t. debugging imaging trying to set a break point
on said singlesttement, plain impossible in following case:
if (a) b;
>
> > I totally agree with Markus
> > that it seems like wasted effort to come up with new tools and having to
> > maintain them when there are good ones out there like the ones from the
> > Linux kernel.
>
> I also find the tool argument very attractive. No other style has that
> benefit.
>
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-12 17:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] CODING_STYLE amendments Blue Swirl
2010-08-12 18:56 ` malc
2010-08-13 15:22 ` Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
2010-08-13 18:02 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-17 8:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-17 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-17 13:55 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-17 18:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-19 13:32 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-19 18:29 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 20:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 20:20 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-22 20:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-20 13:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-20 18:44 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-20 20:24 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-21 9:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-21 10:47 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-21 12:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-21 14:03 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 16:49 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-22 17:00 ` malc
2010-08-22 18:32 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 18:35 ` malc
2010-08-23 8:02 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-23 14:07 ` john cooper
2010-08-22 18:18 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 18:36 ` malc
2010-08-22 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 20:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 8:33 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-23 13:52 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-24 12:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-22 18:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 18:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 19:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 19:44 ` malc
2010-08-22 19:50 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 20:28 ` malc
2010-08-22 20:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 13:55 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-23 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 14:07 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-23 14:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 19:47 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 20:09 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 20:15 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 20:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 20:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 7:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-22 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-08-22 18:13 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 18:39 ` malc [this message]
2010-08-23 8:14 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-23 14:04 ` john cooper
2010-08-23 8:09 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-22 20:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 20:16 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-22 20:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 11:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-23 11:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-17 18:51 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 17:52 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 20:54 ` malc
2010-08-15 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
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