From: malc <av1474@comtv.ru>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Andreas Färber" <andreas.faerber@web.de>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained QEMU builds
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:33:41 +0400 (MSD) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1009052127570.7985@linmac> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C83BFD3.1070808@redhat.com>
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 09/05/2010 06:57 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > On 09/05/2010 10:10 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > > As a baby step, is there any chance of publishing an automatic nightly
> > > > Windows (cross-)build as a .zip file on qemu.org? That might give more
> > > > users a chance of detecting runtime faults during the development cycle.
> > >
> > >
> > > That's doable and useful, yes.
> >
> > I doubt it's useful.
> >
> > We don't have a massive pool of developers sitting on their hands waiting
> > for something else to work on. We don't have myriads of users demanding
> > better Windows support. Search the list, there's almost no one asking
> > questions about Windows and considering that it's missing a ton of features
> > and constantly broken, that strongly suggests that no one is actually using
> > it.
>
> Or maybe, real users don't use the git repository, so they aren't aware of the
> constant breakage.
>
> > Windows support in QEMU is an academic exercise that's only of interest to
> > developers.
>
> I'm perfectly fine with dropping it. btw, there are other features in qemu
> that seem to be academic exercises - *-user for example. What is it useful
> for? Most open source stuff is multiplatform, and serious commercial work
> needs something faster than tcg.
Riiight.. Here's a story, my work duties required me to fiddled with
IP3K based board, thing is - even though their gdb patches were obviously
freely available they were hopelessly endianness confused there were
two options: a) fix it b) use linux-user to run their x86 version of gdb.
I picked b) and it worked just fine. Actually i have two stories, story
number two, since i do not have Adobe Flash but sometimes want to watch
a non-youtube video i need somehow to figure out how .swf requests the
file, giving that i didn't exactly want to learn Flash assembly and the
only decompiler was binary only, i just used it with linux-user.
>
> I can understand cross-cpu system mode being very useful to embedded or kernel
> developers. x-on-x is only useful with virtualization, otherwise the
> performance penalty is too great.
>
>
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2010-08-11 10:58 [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained QEMU builds Stefan Weil
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2010-08-11 11:10 ` Fwd: " Matthijs ter Woord
2010-08-11 16:34 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-11 18:18 ` Stefan Weil
2010-08-11 18:51 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-11 19:19 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-11 19:37 ` Stefan Weil
2010-08-11 22:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-12 9:17 ` Stefan Weil
2010-08-12 12:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-17 8:19 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-15 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-08-15 21:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-16 8:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-08-16 20:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-17 10:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-17 13:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-17 18:38 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-17 18:49 ` malc
2010-08-17 19:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-18 8:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-09-04 14:03 ` Andreas Färber
2010-09-05 15:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-09-05 16:35 ` Andreas Färber
2010-08-18 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2010-09-05 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-09-04 13:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2010-09-05 11:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 14:10 ` Blue Swirl
2010-09-05 14:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 14:40 ` Blue Swirl
2010-09-05 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 15:44 ` Andreas Färber
2010-09-05 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 15:01 ` Andreas Färber
2010-09-05 15:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 15:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-05 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 16:25 ` Blue Swirl
2010-09-05 16:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 17:33 ` malc [this message]
2010-09-05 17:44 ` andrzej zaborowski
2010-09-05 17:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 17:56 ` andrzej zaborowski
2010-09-05 17:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 19:21 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-09-05 19:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-05 17:39 ` Peter Maydell
2010-09-05 19:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-06 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-09-06 9:33 ` Corentin Chary
2010-09-06 22:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2010-09-07 7:38 ` Tristan Gingold
2010-09-07 10:22 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-07 10:31 ` Tristan Gingold
2010-09-07 8:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-09-04 14:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2010-09-05 10:03 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-05 17:54 ` [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained ppc features (was: Unmaintained QEMU builds) Andreas Färber
2010-08-14 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained QEMU builds Andreas Färber
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