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From: malc <av1474@comtv.ru>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] The windows 7 audio support patch series.
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:46:53 +0400 (MSD)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1010281341420.1453@linmac> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CC93894.3030008@redhat.com>

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:

>   Hi,
> 
> > Nice timing there. I wonder how long it took bright folks at redhat to
> > code this HDA stuff?
> 
> A bunch of days.  Played with the usb-audio patch first.  But I suspect
> getting timing-sensitive isochronous usb devices emulated reasonable well is
> pretty hard due to the latency requirements.  And it isn't just the usb
> subsytem, all qemu must improve here.  Example: enabling the threaded vnc
> server improves usb-audio sound quality, you don't get dropouts on every bulky
> screen update then.

We (me, Wu Fengguang and Hans Peter Anvin) tried to do something about
usb-audio, to no avail.

> 
> But for now I tried HDA route instead.
> 
> > Since yesterday i was contacted by folks who wanted
> > to pay money to get VirtualBox's HDA ported to QEMU, and it took me from
> > 16:00 today till basically 15 minutes ago to get the sound pumping from
> > DOS and Linux..
> 
> Oh, there is a HDA driver for DOS?  /me looks surprised ...

DOS doesn't need drivers you know, anyhow:
http://mpxplay.sourceforge.net/

> 
> > Regardless of the answer to my question the NIH is such a nice thing, eh?
> 
> Sure ;)  I don't do that just for fun though.  I *have* looked at the vbox
> driver first.
> 
> The fundamental problem is the qemu world didn't stop at the point where vbox
> forked off, and of course in vbox things are changing too.  We have alot of
> infrastructure for drivers which isn't in vbox, and likewise the other way
> around.  Most notable difference is qemu's qdev is quite useful to model the
> HDA bus.
> 
> So there are basically two options:
> 
>   (1) Port the vbox driver to qemu, then to tons of changes and
>       cleanups to properly integrate into modern qemu.
>   (2) Start over from scratch.
> 
> I believe in the end it wouldn't have saved work to use the vbox code as
> starting point.

At the very least their code does work here (on a PPC with DOS and 
mpxplay) and yours doesn't. I'd have to check things on my x86_64 box
to ensure it's not a endianness issue of some sort, otherwise things
are hard to explain since mpxplay's hda handling is based on ALSA.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-28  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-27 16:04 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] The windows 7 audio support patch series Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] pa: allow processing buffer pieces Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] pa: process 1/4 buffer max at once Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] pa: setup buffer attrs Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] pa: tweak config Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] Add support for a USB audio device model Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 17:13   ` [Qemu-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-28  8:01     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-28 15:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-28 16:13         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-28 15:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-28 15:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-27 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] Add Intel HD Audio support to qemu Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-27 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] The windows 7 audio support patch series malc
2010-10-27 17:51   ` malc
2010-10-28  8:47   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-28  9:46     ` malc [this message]
2010-10-28 10:06       ` malc
2010-10-28 10:06       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-28 22:21       ` Gerd Hoffmann

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