From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
qemu-riscv@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/28] hw: mark secure machines for x86, s390, ppc, arm, loonarch, riscv
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 14:39:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <asOolU1EMpc7jFNI@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e64e1e0-d733-4f8e-98b4-8e6b554101b2@oss.qualcomm.com>
On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 03:34:52PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 5/10/26 15:23, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 03:06:08PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 11/9/26 16:36, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > The versioned machine types are typically present for use in
> > > > virtualization use cases and can be expected to provide a security
> > > > barrier. The only exceptions are the m68k versioned machine types
> > > > which are only used with TCG. There are also a handful of other
> > > > machines declared secure in docs/system/security.rst, notably
> > > > the Xen machine variants and microvm.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > hw/arm/virt.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/arm/xen-pvh.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/i386/microvm.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/i386/pc_piix.c | 4 ++--
> > > > hw/i386/xen/xen-pvh.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/loongarch/virt.c | 2 ++
> > > > hw/ppc/spapr.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/riscv/virt.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/s390x/s390-virtio-ccw.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/xen/xen-pvh-common.c | 1 +
> > > > hw/xenpv/xen_machine_pv.c | 2 +-
> > > > include/hw/i386/pc.h | 1 +
> > > > 12 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > This patch should be split per machine / area of maintenance,
> > > so maintainers can officially Ack their commitment to security
> > > boundary for their machine.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure LoongArch / RISCV / PPC are. If this was previously
> > > discussed, then pointer to the public discussions should be listed
> > > in the patch description.
> >
> > Those are explicitly documented here:
> >
> > https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/system/security.html#virtualization-use-case
> >
> > so this patch is just encoding what has already been defined.
>
> I probably missed when this was accepted, we are good then!
>
> That said, 1/ Nitro Enclave are missing and 2/ this series organization
> is not easy to follow to me: I'd rather a per-machine approach, with a
> 'info qom-tree' output justifying the devices, then finish the series
> with busses-based devices expected to be secure. I dont quite follow
> this approach. I'm not asking to redo the series since it is already
> reviewed.
The structure is essentially, the machines listed in the docs, the
hardware accelerators, the paravirtualized devices, and then per
subsystem devices for the rest.
A per-machine approach would end up with 90% of the series added
in the first patch, as most devices are common to all machines
or targets.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-05 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-11 14:35 [PATCH 00/28] Mark user creatable devices for secure for virt use case Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 01/28] hw: mark secure machines for x86, s390, ppc, arm, loonarch, riscv Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 13:06 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-10-05 13:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-05 13:34 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-10-05 13:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2026-10-05 16:41 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 02/28] accel: mark kvm and xen accelerators as secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 13:26 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 03/28] hw: mark all virtio PCI devices " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 9:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 04/28] hw: mark all virtio CCW " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 13:15 ` Eric Farman
2026-10-05 16:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 05/28] hw: mark all vhost devices a secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 06/28] hw: mark all remaining virtio object types as secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 07/28] hw/vfio: mark all VFIO object classes " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 16:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 08/28] hw/xen: mark all Xen related object types as being secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 09/28] hw/net: mark e1000, e1000e, IGB, rtl8139 & sPAPR VLAN as secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 10/28] hw/usb: mark commonly used USB devices/hosts " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 9:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 11/28] hw/watchdog: mark some watchdog devices " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 16:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 12/28] hw/scsi: mark spapr and vmware SCSI controllers " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 13/28] hw/scsi: mark SCSI disk endpoint devices " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 14/28] hw/ide: mark ICH9 and ide-hd/ide-cd " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 13:30 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-10-05 13:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 15/28] hw: define most common PCI types " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 16:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 9:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 16/28] hw/pci-host: mark common x86, ppc, arm and s390 PCI hosts " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 16:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 17/28] hw/display: mark bochs, cirrus, qxl, VGA, ramfb " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 9:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 18/28] hw/tpm: mark all TPM implementations " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 19/28] hw/misc: mark pvpanic, vmcoreinfo " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 20/28] hw/audio: mark Intel HDA devices & codecs " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 21/28] hw/char: mark common serial / console devicess a secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-05 16:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 22/28] hw/mem: mark nvdimm, pc-dimm & spapr-nvdimm devices as secure Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 23/28] hw/uefi: mark the EFI vars service " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 24/28] hw/acpi: mark erst, vmclock and vmgenid devices " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 25/28] hw: mark KVM clock and RTC " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 26/28] hw: device AMD, Intel and ARM IOMMUs " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 27/28] hw/input: mark PS/2 and PC Keyboard devices " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 28/28] hw/i386: mark vmmouse / vmport " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-09-28 10:37 ` [PATCH 00/28] Mark user creatable devices for secure for virt use case Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-02 17:21 ` marcandre.lureau
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