From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVAyn-0002AV-20 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 02:18:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVAyj-0006di-UG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 02:18:33 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:37730) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVAyj-0006dV-Ng for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 02:18:29 -0400 References: <5233eee1-a017-ccae-3458-762c9e86902c@redhat.com> <20170707133949.GH10776@localhost.localdomain> <20170707181642-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20170707180358.GA12152@localhost.localdomain> <626ce419-8418-a4a2-88d3-b61bf20bbb32@redhat.com> <20170710135943.GG12152@localhost.localdomain> <20170710194345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20170710174730.GL12152@localhost.localdomain> <063778b8-d517-dcac-3c83-95076604a16c@redhat.com> <1499760785.8257.5.camel@redhat.com> <20170711144215.GI4335@noname.str.redhat.com> <1499838706.18762.1.camel@redhat.com> From: Marcel Apfelbaum Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:18:18 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1499838706.18762.1.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] change x86 default machine type to Q35? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gerd Hoffmann , Kevin Wolf Cc: "Tian, Kevin" , Eduardo Habkost , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , libvir-list@redhat.com, Thomas Huth , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Chao Peng , Paolo Bonzini , Laszlo Ersek On 12/07/2017 8:51, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > Hi, >>> I think simply not having a default >>> machine type (as already suggested elsewhere in this thread) is the >>> best way to deal with this. >> >> I would absolutely hate this. One of the nice things about qemu has >> always been that 'qemu disk.img' is enough to start a simple VM. > > Well, not really. There is no "qemu" any more, and there are other > defaults like default memory size which need tweaks, so the minimum > command line isn't that short any more and looks more like this: > > qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 1G disk.img > If the command line is the main concern, I don't think is enough to be the reason not to switch the default. We can work on achieving the same/close with Q35. Thanks, Marcel > cheers, > Gerd >