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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	eduardo@habkost.net, armbru@redhat.com, ajones@ventanamicro.com,
	alex.bennee@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/40] Toward class init of cpu features
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:28:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b3dd666e-582b-e9d4-6dee-364b9dd6d00c@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8cxJFpB9V826DjSsFOy7VYh5TWXb4vRYDUeOMjQgk-eQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/6/23 13:59, Peter Maydell wrote:
> We also set some properties in code -- eg aspeed_ast2600.c clears
> the 'neon' property on its CPUs, lots of the boards clear
> has_el3 and has_el2, etc.

Yes indeed, but in all of those cases we want all of the cpus to act identically.  Those 
are all easily handled (patches 35, 36, 38).

> I hadn't got as far as patch 29, but
> looking at it now that looks like a pretty strong indication
> that this is the wrong way to go. It creates 3 extra
> cortex-m33 CPU classes, and if we find another thing that
> ought to be a CPU property then we'll be up to 8;

If we find another thing that needs to be different between cpus, you mean?

> and it becomes visible in user-facing command line stuff.

No it doesn't -- command line is *not* affected, because both before and after, all 
properties are applied identically to all objects.

QMP is affected, which is where I stopped and started asking questions about what QMP is 
actually trying to do.


> I think our object model pretty strongly wants "create object;
> set properties on it that only affect this object you created;
> realize it", and having one particular subset of objects that
> doesn't work the same way is going to be very confusing.

Eh, I didn't think it's particularly confusing as a concept.
The code is rough, buy what one might expect from an RFC.

We really ought to have *some* solution to not repeating property + feature + isar 
interpretation on a per-cpu basis.  I'd be delighted to hear alternatives.


r~


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-06 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-03 18:16 [RFC PATCH 00/40] Toward class init of cpu features Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/40] qdev: Don't always force the global property array non-null Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:56   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/40] qom: Introduce class_late_init Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/40] qom: Create class properties Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/40] target/arm: Remove aarch64_cpu_finalizefn Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:51   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/40] target/arm: Create arm_cpu_register_parent Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:57   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/40] target/arm: Remove AArch64CPUClass Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/40] target/arm: Create TYPE_ARM_V7M_CPU Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:58   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 08/40] target/arm: Pass ARMCPUClass to ARMCPUInfo.class_init Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:00   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/40] target/arm: Utilize arm-cpu instance_post_init hook Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/40] target/arm: Copy dtb_compatible from ARMCPUClass Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 11/40] target/arm: Copy features " Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-06  2:19     ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-06  7:14       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 12/40] target/arm: Copy isar and friends " Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 13/40] hw/arm/bcm2836: Set mp-affinity property in realize Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:48   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-06  7:51     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 14/40] target/arm: Rename arm_cpu_mp_affinity Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:55   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 15/40] target/arm: Create arm_cpu_mp_affinity Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 21:53   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 16/40] target/arm: Represent the entire MPIDR_EL1 Richard Henderson
2023-01-06 19:16   ` Peter Maydell
2023-01-06 19:33     ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-06 22:14       ` Peter Maydell
2023-01-06 22:36         ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 17/40] target/arm: Copy cp_regs from ARMCPUClass Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 18/40] target/arm: Create cpreg definition functions with GHashTable arg Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 19/40] target/arm: Move most cpu initialization to the class Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 20/40] target/arm: Merge kvm64.c with kvm.c Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 21/40] target/arm: Remove aarch64 check from aarch64_host_object_init Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-06  2:21     ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 22/40] target/arm: Hoist feature and dtb_compatible from KVM, HVF Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 23/40] target/arm: Probe KVM host into ARMCPUClass Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 24/40] target/arm/hvf: Probe " Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:10   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 25/40] target/arm/hvf: Use offsetof in hvf_arm_get_host_cpu_features Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 26/40] target/arm: Rename 'cpu' to 'acc' in class init functions Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 19:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 27/40] target/arm: Split out strongarm_class_init Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:12   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 28/40] target/arm: Split out xscale*_class_init Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 29/40] target/arm: Remove m-profile has_vfp and has_dsp properties Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 30/40] target/arm: Move feature bit propagation to class init Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 31/40] target/arm: Get and set class properties in the monitor Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 32/40] target/arm: Move "midr" to class property Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:18   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 33/40] target/arm: Move "cntfrq" " Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:21   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 34/40] target/arm: Move "reset-hivecs" " Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 35/40] target/arm: Move "has_el2" " Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 36/40] target/arm: Move "has_el3" " Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 37/40] target/arm: Move "cfgend" " Richard Henderson
2023-01-05 22:23   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 38/40] target/arm: Move "vfp" and "neon" to class properties Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 39/40] target/arm: Move "has-mpu" and "pmsav7-dregion" " Richard Henderson
2023-01-03 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 40/40] target/arm: Move "pmu" to class property Richard Henderson
2023-01-04  0:01 ` [RFC PATCH 00/40] Toward class init of cpu features Richard Henderson
2023-01-06 19:12 ` Peter Maydell
2023-01-06 19:29   ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-06 21:59     ` Peter Maydell
2023-01-06 22:28       ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2023-01-07 13:14         ` Peter Maydell
2023-01-06 23:43       ` Alex Bennée
2023-01-06 23:57         ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-07 10:19           ` Alex Bennée
2023-01-07 17:53             ` Richard Henderson

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