From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4A75C001E0 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 14:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWHFX-0005O9-PR; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 10:11:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <400thecat@gmx.ch>) id 1qWGAQ-0000wv-67; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 09:02:31 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <400thecat@gmx.ch>) id 1qWGAN-00084y-Qd; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 09:02:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.ch; s=s31663417; t=1692190943; x=1692795743; i=400thecat@gmx.ch; bh=ZqKZIqNiaUo3k/aSX8GhkS97z/ULu2T1WyAbbs3/prg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=DMdSvwIKOR7L2ypZWpT6EOL6sfViBenpAQjxmaAU6imSxHe+OhcrzcRRy41awyidVivQpyD NA5EJ1itB0LGcTZeMRDEZyuqyF8R4iNNBi6uKpd4UBYWJbBzT84YlBPSm/I0AfaBCE14MIRuc imjyDeAPB4tloGgo4XJQtScvTWQHFwx3SsuYLAsQC0DsoMXCuDKo3fJ+VV3pITs8mvAXOLjQf 8nfd33zHqcSjqCgbHpEt5Ym9iqjHaHZBBgTEyOO7CKq4dEynP0Szf/LvZJz/ZMsAxorkbD/P9 07IUwMpx4UYM/2iHS8WrbpsDRODkW2B+ozPt4D3kDurk/J6Vt6dg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [10.1.4.32] ([212.25.11.75]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mk0JM-1q3Y7r08Qy-00kOq7; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:02:23 +0200 Subject: Re: qemu-system-x86 dependencies To: Michael Tokarev , =?UTF-8?Q?Marc-Andr=c3=a9_Lureau?= , Gerd Hoffmann Cc: qemu-discuss@nongnu.org, QEMU Developers References: <10b32eab-a19a-a656-b8bd-4aef1f00bf11@linaro.org> <01d1482b-6b84-b762-f98c-7e0e74087820@tls.msk.ru> From: Fourhundred Thecat <400thecat@gmx.ch> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:02:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01d1482b-6b84-b762-f98c-7e0e74087820@tls.msk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:90x5RQ2CothHJyqrs/OgdNkxAKIy9X4rKp1Yq9Hnr3g3BnxKYiN ccKBFduAKTQQmzQ0aPJLFsnX+gXfkbtaGiUyN96lfZdWVsOOif/Lwq4qxBzg1QDAqTkve1Q Ewrd28FG5cvUbBAwDqzaJ3TXGG02jOy0HE6pDOYFLepsnG4x+QRP4A/r5i2Lcqm2dCza5n/ 9hyhnH7LAWTAfoPDkiIUQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:qdxVKqdA12U=;ug5SBGqUBElT+QmnZGoyucqNDoG SBmwcrlvJDpHNPdrn0M5gsNlwd0o9ryDerJ/UnkymyaE93z7aqxffAEv/VbgfTkkmJ84VkUBx Zx6i587uloK6KLy1c3hmx4c/uDMtvGHgPQ5iBFs2F1ZNlha8nyfvamY6v5vTh4J7D7q+YfVAk RFJBXz2dAjZOZhAtXrxWXNpH4AtS8IE4WNnTjnX7IaDg+QP/NzZXa3oi6hsA4iRE2QDCiixDI F61pqNdUPMQOHbkXsTEMb4uFGb1Mk0eyHFgCQfx19kP2YLXMZY1FC124P/0o4GRANM2UiEbqb oC+IKZN19ZFNISpB6B+w5uPr3Rw7bqis7jP2KuyyGCPmzhkv6IFzmK5gGeFoBvwT1TuZWJ1ox hLoYgYfkkN6ueZ7hvs9VKTWucSOckQd1yT6HxwNE1UXXP+OGv2VpTCNfgIE5H9ZUaqsPRfWBQ eH40iGt/O/xJpqFZ9Fzv9PUFm2ugSkkgBr8fzX5N1bGV33FhX06WLXhcQzZZMKnJG6UU7kEhl 8pofY6nX6RYBMuF5fW8YROrJOPPnDYIqut9THX81VRTGGfSHkIDnSvcLeLv6F+966lNHWtKh+ NbyWA5+laMI7L+Sg430i4dtOmgZBSGdmhUu0oIbfCP6hqn3VGszZlL/b3TdHde6dWi/iN7/Yd L1xUfaGJea6c+IaYImyuHpJYz0OyxrSY6XsGrV4OCHvKXb9C5dAqwso35BjlXzhSYIbDA8HHj J8bIjGloMTIilRVL/KmY2mW0p3tEgNV6KNo6qfF5Gg4g+UNyys4aT6/3s/v75Grgyzh16ZZ70 iQcT5y5VTjfRYo0eR6KesBgMGX1hrFAGoKOSfrmq8dNnL37YBDoTxn2loP8MSdrq2hdBl5Wlo /f2d6RaxBh5xeuxzH4KvfbaUe8mxYp9GlEaLjVIev7AVwPhHJZStBLyW/kFtudyLLEEfC/C4I /mAJvQQQve4HdzILlQUbeZGiHx4= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=400thecat@gmx.ch; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS=0.738, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 10:11:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org > On 2023-08-16 14:52, Michael Tokarev wrote: > 16.08.2023 15:37, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5= =D1=82: >> Cc'ing Michael >> >> On 16/8/23 13:52, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am trying to install qemu-system-x86 on Debian 12. >>> >>> But through the dependency cascade, it wants to install sound >>> infrastructure with gstreamer libraries. Which leads to absurd >>> dependencies, such as: >>> >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 libasound2 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 libopus0 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 libwayland-server0 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 libusb-1.0-0 >>> >>> Does this madness come from Debian distribution, or from upstream? > > I don't know which madness you're talking about. Is it qemu upstream mad= ness > or debian distribution madness?=C2=A0 Maybe if you were be a bit more sp= ecific > and share your definition of madness, things would be more clear.=C2=A0 = But with > either of the mentioned madness, it might be neither of us are able to > understand, being both mad. what I meant is: why does qemu depend on sound and gstreamer and wayland libraries? After all, i am just trying to run VMs on my hypervisor. If I remember correctly, my previous installation on Debian 10, qemu-syste= m-x86 had no such dependencies. Seems to me like trying to install openssh-server, but it needs full gnome= environment libraries.