From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ENxqr-0003SR-Ij for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:25:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ENxqp-0003QG-TG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:25:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENxqp-0003Pk-Fp for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:25:51 -0400 Received: from [64.233.162.207] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ENxqp-00058L-HU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:25:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so369020nzh for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:25:50 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?Ozan_T=FCrky=FDlmaz?= Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU + DOSEMU In-Reply-To: <20051007192041.GA12523@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1128709522.32405.75.camel@aragorn> <20051007192041.GA12523@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?Ozan_T=FCrky=FDlmaz?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org On 07/10/05, Jim C. Brown wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:25:22AM -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > You would install DosEmu into QEMU into Linux or Windows. > > But don't do that, since it makes no sense: > > > > Actually, it makes perfect sense if one is talking about user mode qemu > (though that only works on Linux). > > > > > > > So, based on the OS you regularly run, decide on a machine emulator. > > Then decide what version of DOS you want to install in that machine > > emulator. You only need one selection from each category. Note that thi= s > > means you normally would not run DOSEmu under QEMU, since you would be > > emulating the machine twice which is unnecessary and inefficient. > > > > -- John. > > Well, if he wants to run a DOS program on a non-x86 Linux system (like a = PPC > Linux) then DOSEmu on qemu-i386 is a good choice. One of the goals of the= original > qemu (before full system emulation) was to be able to run Wine and DOSEmu= on > non-x86 Linux systems. > > And for the record, DOSEmu does not emulate an x86 machine so its not tha= t > inefficent (tho running DOSEmu in Linux in QEMU is definitely redundant). > > > > > Host OS: Host operating system on which to run x86 machine emulator > > (pick ONE) > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Windows > > DOS > > I think you meant to type *nix or Linux here, not DOS. Running DOS on top= of > DOS is obviously redundant. > > Incidently, I don't know of any x86 emulator that runs on DOS. > > > > > x86 Machine emulators > > (pick ONE compatible with Host OS choice) > > --------------------- > > > Just want to point out here that DOSBox is not a x86 Machine emulator. It > is a DOS emulator, so it emulates that OS. (DOSBox does emulate parts of = an x86 > but not the whole thing). > > DOSEmu is the fastest because it virtualizes the OS instead of emulating = it; > but it is designed only to virtualize 16bit real mode DOS. > > MESS might work but it seems to emulate only older microcomputers. > > > > > DOS > > (Many alternative DOSes to pick from... pick ONE) > > --------------------------------- > > MS-DOS is the DOS operating system > > Well, there was DR-DOS and PC-DOS. MS-DOS just happened to end up as the = most > popular version. (There were other DOSes in fact, such as Apple DOS, thou= gh > they date from the time of the original 8080 and ran on incompatible cpus= .) > suprase to everybody MS-DOS 7.10 is GPL'ed. > > FreeDOS is a Free re-implementation of the DOS operating system > > There's also the FOSS Caldera DOS, which is not a re-implementation but r= ather > a derivative of DR-DOS. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qemu-devel mailing list > > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel > > > > -- > Infinite complexity begets infinite beauty. > Infinite precision begets infinite perfection. > > > _______________________________________________ > Qemu-devel mailing list > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel > -- Ozan