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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-riscv@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/22] hw/core/cpu: Remove @CPUState::as field
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 09:35:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5280074-e87c-4838-b816-eb9e42dd090c@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-daogqBPxt72qTM6BuMuD1wuw+vXZwxLUQftwY2FZk=w@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/1/25 09:08, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 16:05, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> Instead of using the convenient @CPUState::as shortcut, use
>> cpu_get_address_space(asidx=0) to get the vCPU first address
>> space.
>>
>> The goal is to reduce the risk of AS mis-use for targets
>> that uses multiple ASes per vCPU.
> 
> I'm not sure I agree with this. The cpu->as is handy for
> the large number of targets which only use one AddressSpace:
> which is everything except arm and x86 right now.
> 
> Targets that use multiple address spaces need to be careful
> about which AS they use by definition. Unless we have a
> track record of code in those targets carelessly using
> cpu->as when it should do something else, I'm not sure
> that there's a benefit that makes it worth making the
> "use the one and only AS this CPU will ever have" more awkward.

I agree.

Moreover, '0' as a default is just as bad as cpu->as, because you're giving no thought to 
the selection.  Similarly using MEMATTRS_UNSPECIFIED.  When such things matter, we need 
the real attributes and/or as piped down from the proper memory reference.


r~


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-01 15:05 [PATCH 00/22] hw/core/cpu: Remove @CPUState::as field Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 01/22] system/qtest: Use &address_space_memory for first vCPU address space Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 02/22] disas/disas-mon: Get cpu first addr space with cpu_get_address_space() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:34   ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 03/22] monitor/hmp-cmds: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:35   ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-10-01 16:23     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 04/22] hw/core/loader: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 05/22] hw/ppc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:23   ` Miles Glenn
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 06/22] hw/m86k: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-18  5:52   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 07/22] target/xtensa: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 08/22] target/riscv: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 09/22] semihosting: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 10/22] target/alpha: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 11/22] target/arm: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 12/22] target/hppa: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 13/22] target/i386: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 14/22] target/loongarch: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 15/22] target/m68k: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 16/22] target/microblaze: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 17/22] target/ppc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 18/22] target/s390x: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 19/22] target/sparc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 20/22] hw/core/cpu: Remove @CPUState::as field Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 21/22] exec/cpu: Declare cpu_memory_rw_debug() in 'hw/core/cpu.h' and document Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-06 19:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-08 16:25   ` Zhao Liu
2025-10-01 15:05 ` [PATCH 22/22] target/sparc: Reduce inclusions of 'exec/cpu-common.h' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 15:39 ` [PATCH 00/22] hw/core/cpu: Remove @CPUState::as field BALATON Zoltan
2025-10-01 16:08 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-01 16:35   ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2025-10-01 16:42     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-10-01 18:38       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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