From: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, <adrian@parity.io>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] virt: vmgenid: introduce driver for reinitializing RNG on VM fork
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:37:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6c5c4d4-88a5-1ac5-a4d4-2f6895065834@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yhj288aE5rW15Qpj@zx2c4.com>
On 25.02.22 16:34, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 04:16:27PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>> I just booted up a Windows VM, and it looks like Hyper-V uses
>>>> "Hyper_V_Gen_Counter_V1", which is also quite long, so we can't really
>>>> HID match on that either.
>>>
>>> Yes, due to the same problem. I'd really prefer we sort out the ACPI
>>> matching before this goes mainline. Matching on _HID is explicitly
>>> discouraged in the VMGenID spec.
>>>
>> OK, this really sucks. Quoting the ACPI spec:
>>
>> """
>> A _HID object evaluates to either a numeric 32-bit compressed EISA
>> type ID or a string. If a string, the format must be an alphanumeric
>> PNP or ACPI ID with no asterisk or other leading characters.
>> A valid PNP ID must be of the form "AAA####" where A is an uppercase
>> letter and # is a hex digit.
>> A valid ACPI ID must be of the form "NNNN####" where N is an uppercase
>> letter or a digit ('0'-'9') and # is a hex digit. This specification
>> reserves the string "ACPI" for use only with devices defined herein.
>> It further reserves all strings representing 4 HEX digits for
>> exclusive use with PCI-assigned Vendor IDs.
>> """
>>
>> So now we have to implement Microsoft's fork of ACPI to be able to use
>> this device, even if we expose it from QEMU instead of Hyper-V? I
>> strongly object to that.
>>
>> Instead, we can match on _HID exposed by QEMU, and cordially invite
>> Microsoft to align their spec with the ACPI spec.
> I don't know about that... Seems a bit extreme. Hopefully Alex will be
> able to sort something out with the ACPI people, and this driver will
> work inside of Hyper-V.
>
> Here's what we currently have:
>
> static const struct acpi_device_id vmgenid_ids[] = {
> { "VMGENID", 0 }, <------------------------------------ ???
> { "QEMUVGID", 0 }, <------------------------------------ QEMU
> { },
> };
>
> Adrian added "VMGENID" in last year's v4, so I copied that for this new
> driver here. But does anybody know which hypervisor it is for? Some
> internal Amazon thing? Firecracker? VMware? In case Alex does not
> succeed with the ACPI changes, it'd be nice to know which HIDs for
> which hypervisors we do and do not support.
I believe "VMGENID" was for the firecracker prototype that Adrian built
back then, yeah. Matching on _HID for this is a rat hole unfortunately,
so let's see what the ACPI patch gets us :).
Alex
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-25 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-24 13:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] VM fork detection for RNG Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-24 13:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] random: add mechanism for VM forks to reinitialize crng Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 11:26 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 11:43 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 11:44 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-24 13:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] virt: vmgenid: introduce driver for reinitializing RNG on VM fork Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 10:37 ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-02-25 11:24 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 11:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-25 12:01 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 12:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 12:48 ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 12:52 ` Greg KH
2022-02-25 12:53 ` Greg KH
2022-02-25 12:56 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 13:57 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 14:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:18 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:18 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 14:33 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:11 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:16 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 15:22 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:43 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:57 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:34 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:37 ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2022-02-25 15:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:36 ` Greg KH
2022-02-25 15:31 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:36 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:54 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:15 ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:28 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:03 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 15:14 ` Alexander Graf
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