From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-9.0 04/10] hw/xen: Factor xen_arch_align_ioreq_data() out of handle_ioreq()
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 08:58:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7646614-8f5c-4ea6-9ea8-ff81f4a492c9@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e892e4eee469b1d1406dcd0844af48d1aaff23ae.camel@infradead.org>
On 13/11/23 18:11, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-11-13 at 17:09 +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>> On 13/11/23 16:58, Woodhouse, David wrote:
>>> On 13 Nov 2023 10:22, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Per commit f17068c1c7 ("xen-hvm: reorganize xen-hvm and move
>>> common
>>> function to xen-hvm-common"), handle_ioreq() is expected to be
>>> target-agnostic. However it uses 'target_ulong', which is a
>>> target
>>> specific definition.
>>>
>>> In order to compile this file once for all targets, factor the
>>> target-specific code out of handle_ioreq() as a per-target
>>> handler
>>> called xen_arch_align_ioreq_data().
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
>>> ---
>>> Should we have a 'unsigned qemu_target_long_bits();' helper
>>> such qemu_target_page_foo() API and target_words_bigendian()?
>>>
>>>
>>> It can be more fun than that though. What about
>>> qemu_target_alignof_uint64() for example, which differs between
>>> i386 and
>>> x86_64 and causes even structs with *explicitly* sized fields to
>>> differ
>>> because of padding.
>>>
>>> I'd *love* to see this series as a step towards my fantasy of being
>>> able
>>> to support Xen under TCG. After all, without that what's the point
>>> in
>>> being target-agnostic?
>>
>> Another win is we are building all these files once instead of one
>> for
>> each i386/x86_64/aarch64 targets, so we save CI time and Amazon
>> trees.
>>
>>> However, I am mildly concerned that some of these files are
>>> accidentally
>>> using the host ELF ABI, perhaps with explicit management of 32-bit
>>> compatibility, and the target-agnosticity is purely an illusion?
>>>
>>> See the "protocol" handling and the three ABIs for the ring in
>>> xen-block, for example.
>>
>> If so I'd expect build failures or violent runtime assertions.
>
> Heh, mostly the guest just crashes in the cases I've seen so far.
>
> See commit a1c1082908d ("hw/xen: use correct default protocol for xen-
> block on x86").
>
>> Reviewing quickly hw/block/dataplane/xen-block.c, this code doesn't
>> seem target specific at all IMHO. Otherwise I'd really expect it to
>> fail compiling. But I don't know much about Xen, so I'll let block &
>> xen experts to have a look.
>
> Where it checks dataplane->protocol and does different things for
> BLKIF_PROTOCOL_NATIVE/BLKIF_PROTOCOL_X86_32/BLKIF_PROTOCOL_X86_64, the
> *structures* it uses are intended to be using the correct ABI. I think
> the structs for BLKIF_PROTOCOL_NATIVE may actually be *different*
> according to the target, in theory?
OK I see what you mean, blkif_back_rings_t union in hw/block/xen_blkif.h
These structures shouldn't differ between targets, this is the point of
an ABI :) And if they were, they wouldn't compile as target agnostic.
> I don't know that they are *correct* right now, if the host is
> different from the target. But that's just a bug (that only matters if
> we ever want to support Xen-compatible guests using TCG).
>
>>> Can we be explicit about what's expected to work here and what's
>>> not in scope?
>>
>> What do you mean? Everything is expected to work like without this
>> series applied :)
>
> I think that if we ever do support Xen-compatible guests using TCG,
> we'll have to fix that bug and use the right target-specific
> structures... and then perhaps we'll want the affected files to
> actually become target-specfic again?
>
> I think this series makes it look like target-agnostic support *should*
> work... but it doesn't really?
For testing we have:
aarch64: tests/avocado/boot_xen.py
x86_64: tests/avocado/kvm_xen_guest.py
No combination with i386 is tested,
Xen within aarch64 KVM is not tested (not sure it works).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-14 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-13 15:58 [PATCH-for-9.0 04/10] hw/xen: Factor xen_arch_align_ioreq_data() out of handle_ioreq() Woodhouse, David
2023-11-13 16:09 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-13 17:11 ` David Woodhouse
2023-11-14 7:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2023-11-14 13:49 ` David Woodhouse
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2023-11-13 15:21 [PATCH-for-9.0 00/10] hw/xen: Have most of Xen files become target-agnostic Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-13 15:21 ` [PATCH-for-9.0 04/10] hw/xen: Factor xen_arch_align_ioreq_data() out of handle_ioreq() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-13 17:36 ` David Woodhouse
2023-11-13 18:16 ` Richard Henderson
2023-11-14 7:42 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
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