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[46.114.149.33]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm7243677wrh.94.2021.09.13.01.36.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 01:36:25 -0700 (PDT) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2e_Berrang=c3=a9?= References: <20210913062126.16946-1-thuth@redhat.com> <7548727b-222a-34ac-6fb1-1bc01837b9b2@redhat.com> From: Thomas Huth Subject: Re: [qemu-web v2 PATCH] Update the information about the required version of macOS Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:36:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=thuth@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=thuth@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -67 X-Spam_score: -6.8 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.393, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-3.584, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Peter Maydell , Paolo Bonzini , qemu-devel qemu-devel , Howard Spoelstra Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 13/09/2021 10.28, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:04:25AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: >> On 13/09/2021 09.35, Howard Spoelstra wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:21 AM Thomas Huth >> > wrote: >>> >>> The versions that we specify for macOS are way too old already. Let's >>> rephrase this without specific version numbers, pointing the users >>> to the latest version instead. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth > >>> --- >>>  v2: Rephrased to be more in sync with docs/about/build-platforms.rst >>> >>>  _download/macos.md | 6 ++++-- >>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>> >>> diff --git a/_download/macos.md b/_download/macos.md >>> index 06aa811..c55438a 100644 >>> --- a/_download/macos.md >>> +++ b/_download/macos.md >>> @@ -6,5 +6,7 @@ QEMU can be installed from MacPorts: >>> >>>  
sudo port install qemu
>>> >>> -QEMU requires Mac OS X 10.5 or later, but it is recommended >>> -to use Mac OS X 10.7 or later. >>> +QEMU requires the the most recent macOS version that is currently >>> available. >>> +Support for the previous version will be dropped two years after the >>> current >>> +version has been released or when Apple drops support for it, whatever >>> comes >>> +first. >>> -- 2.27.0 >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Nice to see this clarified. >>> I guess a small typo crept in: "QEMU requires the the most recent macOS >>> version that is currently available." >> >> Thanks, I'll drop one of the "the"s. >> >>> Also, is this statement correct when the 2 year previous version(s) are >>> also supported? >> >> https://qemu-project.gitlab.io/qemu/about/build-platforms.html only talks >> about "the previous major version" ... so that's a good question, what >> happens if a vendor releases multiple major versions within two years? >> >> I guess the intention was that all previous versions are supported as long >> as the two years haven't expired yet. We might need to update the >> build-platforms text in that respect, too. > > The intention was that we limit the scope of our support to at most > 2 concurrent releases, even if the vendor has more still under support. > The current major version at all times, and the previous major version > for upto 2 years (unless vendor EOLs it before then). Ok, then we should maybe talk about "the *last* previous major version" instead? Also it seems like we have a similar situation with NetBSD: https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/614 Version 9.0 has been released in 2020, i.e. it's not older than two years yet. Current version is 9.2 already, though, so there has been a previous major version (9.1) in between, right? Thomas