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From: Kamil Rytarowski <n54@gmx.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Brad Smith" <brad@comstyle.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Kamil Rytarowski" <kamil@netbsd.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] [RfC] audio: probe audio drivers by default
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 11:06:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd206be0-3e7e-ad5c-f497-dc28b1904311@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190124063851.zhjlx5oigvri4r64@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

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On 24.01.2019 07:38, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
>>> https://xkcd.com/927/
>>
>> There is a different context on BSD than on Linux. We can choose one
>> solution and switch to it literally all the software keeping everything
>> in a single ports tree.
>>
>> This is what happened on OpenBSD.
>>
>> The result is that almost everything uses sndio, and pulseaudio is far
>> behind in adoption in any distro.
> 
> I'm not going to join the sndio vs. pulse discussion.
> 
> But from a maintenance point of view it sucks big time to have a bunch
> of ways to play sound, and everybody uses a different one so you have to
> maintain a backend for each of those methods.
> 
> Maybe we should outsource that problem.  Write a gstreamer backend, then
> delete oss/alsa/sdl/pulse/whatever backends and let gstreamer handle
> that mess ...
> 

Just please leave it to OS maintainers.

There is no fragmentation in BSD distributions so sndio isn't different
to native sound system on Darwin or Windows and I see no complains that
Windows does not adapt PulseAudio. (Probably the only practical
difference is BSD being open-source.)

> cheers,
>   Gerd
> 



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-24 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-23  8:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] audio: rework driver probing Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23  8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] audio: use pkg-config Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23  8:30   ` Thomas Huth
2019-01-23  8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] audio: allow optional audio drivers Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23  8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] audio: use try-sdl and try-pa for openbsd Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23  8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] [RfC] audio: probe audio drivers by default Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23  8:27   ` Thomas Huth
2019-01-23  9:36     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-01-23  9:50       ` Thomas Huth
2019-01-23 10:12         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-01-23 10:36           ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-23 10:59             ` Peter Maydell
2019-01-23 11:10               ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-23 11:16                 ` Peter Maydell
2019-01-23 11:30                   ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-23 12:20                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23 12:45                   ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-23 13:59                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23 14:45                       ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-23 14:54                       ` Brad Smith
2019-01-23 15:12                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-23 15:20                           ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-24  6:38                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-01-24  6:51                               ` Thomas Huth
2019-01-24 10:06                               ` Kamil Rytarowski [this message]
2019-01-23 10:16         ` Kamil Rytarowski
2019-01-23 10:24     ` Gerd Hoffmann

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