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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] exec: eliminate ram naming issue as migration
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:43:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfe718ca-3251-a87d-00e7-60a1dfa2da82@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180226135549.34af5dbf@redhat.com>

On 26/02/2018 13:55, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>> So how about just adding a new option --mem-share to decide if that's a
>>> private memory or shared memory? That seems much straightforward way
> Above options are legacy (which we can't remove for compat reasons),
> their replacement is 'memory-backend-file' backend which has all of
> the above including 'share' property.

More precisely, we have added "-object memory-backend-file" to avoid
proliferation of options related to memory.  Besides unifying the cases
of 1 and >1 NUMA node, using -object also has the advantage of
supporting memory hotplug.

You wrote "I find adding a backend for nonnuma pc RAM is roundabout way"
but basically the command line says "this VM has only one NUMA node,
backed by this memory object" which is a precise description of what the
VM memory looks like.

> So just add 'memdev' property to machine and reuse memory-backend-file
> with it instead of duplicating functionality in the legacy code.

That would however also have a different RAMBlock id, effectively
producing the same output as "-numa node,memdev=...".

I think this should be solved at the libvirt level.  Libvirt should
write in the migration XML cookie whether the VM is using -object or
-mem-path to declare its memory, and newly-started VMs should always use
-object.  This won't fix the problem for VMs that are already running,
but it will fix it the next time they are started.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-26 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-05 14:58 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] exec: eliminate ram naming issue as migration Jianfeng Tan
2018-02-05 15:45 ` no-reply
2018-02-05 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-05 16:12   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-05 16:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-05 16:44       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-05 16:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-05 17:15       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-05 17:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-07  7:49           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-07 12:06             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-08  1:20               ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-08  9:51                 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-08 10:18                   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-08 11:30                     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-24  3:08                       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-24  3:11                       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-26 12:55                         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-26 14:43                           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-02-27  4:55                             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-27  4:36                           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-28 15:40                             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-05 18:44         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-05 16:12 ` no-reply
2018-02-05 16:29 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-05 16:51   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-05 18:36     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-06 15:24       ` Igor Mammedov

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