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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.m.mail@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.markovic@rt-rk.com>,
	"amarkovic@wavecomp.com" <amarkovic@wavecomp.com>,
	"aleksandar.rikalo@rt-rk.com" <aleksandar.rikalo@rt-rk.com>,
	"aurelien@aurel32.net" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] disas: mips: Add micromips R6 disassembler - infrastructure and 16-bit instructions
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 08:06:40 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1b65e3f-ea37-ebca-e47e-1fb1a30df9f2@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL1e-=gsX+_G28i3MbFn3qLW7YKyQapaAdEhpkCKtvwS6juHHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/25/20 12:22 AM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
> 
> 
> On Saturday, January 25, 2020, Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org
> <mailto:richard.henderson@linaro.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 1/24/20 1:38 PM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
>     > On Friday, January 24, 2020, Richard Henderson
>     <richard.henderson@linaro.org <mailto:richard.henderson@linaro.org>
>     > <mailto:richard.henderson@linaro.org
>     <mailto:richard.henderson@linaro.org>>> wrote:
>     >     The thing I'm concerned about here is any future maintenance of this
>     file.  One
>     >     would surely prefer to edit the original decodetree input than this
>     output.
>     >
>     >
>     > Here is the deal: This dissasembler is meant to reflect the
>      documentation of a
>     > particular ISA, and as the documentation largely stays constant (except
>     adding
>     > some insignificant errata), the disassembler will stay virtually constant, we
>     > wouldn't like even to touch it, and we like it this way.
> 
>     No, this is neither right nor proper.
> 
>     To review the code in this form is significantly harder than in its decodetree
>     form.  That is in fact the whole point of the decodetree form: otherwise we'd
>     still be writing these sorts of parsers by hand.
> 
>     While there's no license on this new file (another problem), if as assumed this
>     is GPL 2+, then you are in violation of the GPL.  From section 3:
> 
>       # The source code for a work means the preferred form of
>       # the work for making modifications to it.
> 
>     You cannot with a straight face claim that the generated c is the preferred
>     form for making modifications.
> 
>     Finally, suppose we improve decodetree.py, so that it produces code with which
>     the compiler produces better code, for some metric of better.  We would want
>     this disassembler to benefit as well.
> 
> 
> I think you got some things upside-down. A tool developent and usage should be
> driven by the needs of users of a tool, and not dictated by the author. Users
> should be free to use the tool in any way they seem suitable, including its
> modification.

That's exactly right, provided that by "tool" you mean QEMU and by "users" you
mean everyone downstream of us.

Let me state for the record that I object to this generated file being merged
in this form, for the reasons I stated above.


r~


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-25 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-24 16:38 [PATCH v4 0/7] target/mips: Misc MIPS fixes and improvements for 5.0 Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] target/mips: Rectify documentation on deprecating r4k machine Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] target/mips: Add support for MIPS<32|64>R6 CRC32 ISA Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] target/mips: Amend CP0 WatchHi register implementation Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 17:22   ` Aleksandar Rikalo
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] target/mips: Add implementation of GINVT instruction Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 17:23   ` Aleksandar Rikalo
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] disas: Add a field for target-dependant data Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 17:25   ` Aleksandar Rikalo
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] disas: mips: Add micromips R6 disassembler - infrastructure and 16-bit instructions Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 19:44   ` Richard Henderson
2020-01-24 20:56     ` Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 21:03       ` Richard Henderson
2020-01-24 23:38         ` Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-25  7:51           ` Richard Henderson
2020-01-25 10:22             ` Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-25 18:06               ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2020-01-24 16:38 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] disas: mips: Add micromips R6 disassembler - 32-bit instructions Aleksandar Markovic
2020-01-24 17:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] target/mips: Misc MIPS fixes and improvements for 5.0 no-reply
2020-01-24 18:09 ` no-reply

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