From: Salil Mehta via <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@opnsrc.net>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_kvm: Avoid reading ICC_CTLR_EL1 from kernel in cpuif reset
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 15:54:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c39c066ceb8d4be8a4d462af6029793c@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-gZj7PBM4whrvvz=qy3taO9Dz4Z2HEAAB8cE0vxH3bug@mail.gmail.com>
> From: qemu-devel-bounces+salil.mehta=huawei.com@nongnu.org <qemu-
> devel-bounces+salil.mehta=huawei.com@nongnu.org> On Behalf Of Peter
> Maydell
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 4:44 PM
> To: Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 at 16:33, Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 4:24 PM
> > > To: Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>
> > >
> > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 at 16:13, Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> In what situation
> > > > > do we ever start running a VCPU before the *GIC* has been
> > > > > realized? The GIC should get realized as part of creating the
> > > > > virt board, which must complete before we do anything like running a
> vcpu.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just after realization of vCPU in the machvirt_init() you can see
> > > > the default power_state is PSCI CPU_ON, which means
> > > KVM_MP_STATE_RUNNABLE.
> > > > Since, the thread is up and not doing IO wait in userspace it gets
> > > > into
> > > > cpu_exec() loop and actually run KVM_RUN IOCTL. Inside the KVM it
> > > > momentarily takes the vCPU mutex but later exit and releases. This
> > > > keeps going on for all of the vCPU threads realized early.
> > >
> > > Yikes. We definitely should fix that : letting the vcpu run before
> > > we get to
> > > qemu_machine_creation_done() seems like it would be a massive source
> > > of race conditions.
> >
> > I've already proposed fix for this by parking such threads in
> > userspace. Please check functions virt_(un)park_cpu_in_userspace().
> > But need to check if we can use this trick can be used at the very early
> stages of the VM initialization.
>
> I had a look at this on x86, and we correctly don't try to KVM_RUN the vcpus
> early. What happens there is:
> * the vcpu thread calls qemu_process_cpu_events()
> * this causes it to go to sleep on the cpu->halt_cond: so
> it will not end up doing KVM_RUN yet
> * later, the main thread completes initialization of the board
> * qdev_machine_creation_done() calls cpu_synchronize_all_post_init()
> * for kvm, this causes us to call kvm_cpu_synchronize_post_init()
> for each vcpu
> * that will call run_on_cpu() which ends up calling qemu_cpu_kick()
> * qemu_cpu_kick() does a broadcast on cpu->halt_cond, which
> wakes up the vcpu thread and lets it go into kvm_cpu_exec()
> for the first time
>
> Why doesn't this mechanism work on Arm ?
I will need some time to revisit this.
Many thanks!
Best regards
Salil.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-14 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-14 10:24 [PATCH] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_kvm: Avoid reading ICC_CTLR_EL1 from kernel in cpuif reset Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 10:41 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 13:23 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 13:31 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 13:41 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 13:49 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 14:22 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 14:28 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 14:48 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 14:59 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 15:13 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 15:16 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 15:23 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 15:32 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 15:43 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 15:54 ` Salil Mehta via [this message]
2025-10-14 19:36 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-17 1:43 ` Salil Mehta
2025-10-14 16:07 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-14 16:12 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-14 15:39 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-16 12:09 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-15 10:58 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-15 12:06 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-16 11:13 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-16 12:46 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-16 15:28 ` Salil Mehta
2025-10-16 15:46 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-16 15:48 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-16 12:17 ` Salil Mehta via
2025-10-16 12:22 ` Peter Maydell
2025-10-16 12:36 ` Salil Mehta
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