From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: armbru@redhat.com, xiechanglong.d@gmail.com,
wencongyang2@huawei.com, stefanha@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
famz@redhat.com, jcody@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com,
kwolf@redhat.com, den@openvz.orgJohn Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/18] fleecing-hook driver for backup
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:19:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5771011-3a69-65c1-bcaf-83cddfb24edf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181001102928.20533-1-vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
On 10/1/18 5:29 AM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> v2 was "[RFC v2] new, node-graph-based fleecing and backup"
>
> Hi all!
>
> These series introduce fleecing-hook driver. It's a filter-node, which
> do copy-before-write operation. Mirror uses filter-node for handling
> guest writes, let's move to filter-node (from write-notifiers) for
> backup too (patch 18)
>
> Proposed filter driver is complete and separate: it can be used
> standalone, as fleecing provider (instead of backup(sync=none)).
> (old-style fleecing based on backup(sync=none) is supported too),
> look at patch 16.
I haven't had time to look at this series in any sort of depth yet, but
it reminds me of a question I just ran into with my libvirt code:
What happens if we want to have two parallel clients both reading off
different backup/fleece nodes at once? Right now, 'nbd-server-start' is
hard-coded to at most one NBD server, and 'nbd-server-add' is hardcoded
to adding an export to the one-and-only NBD server. But it would be a
lot nicer if you could pick different ports for different clients (or
even mix TCP and Unix sockets), so that independent backup jobs can both
operate in parallel via different NBD servers both under control of the
same qemu process, instead of the second client having to wait for the
first client to disconnect so that the first NBD server can stop. In
the meantime, you can be somewhat careful by controlling which export
names are exposed over NBD, but even with nbd-server-start using
"tls-creds", all clients can see one another's exports via NBD_OPT_LIST,
and you are relying on the clients being well-behaved, vs. the nicer
ability to spawn multiple NBD servers, then control which exports are
exposed over which servers, and where distinct servers could even have
different tls-creds.
To get to that point, we'd need to enhance nbd-server-start to return a
server id, and allow nbd-server-add and friends to take an optional
parameter of a server id (for back-compat, if the server id is not
provided, it operates on the first one).
--
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc. +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization: qemu.org | libvirt.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-02 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-01 10:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/18] fleecing-hook driver for backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/18] block/dirty-bitmap: allow set/reset bits in disabled bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 14:23 ` Eric Blake
2018-10-03 14:50 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/18] block/io: allow BDRV_REQ_SERIALISING for read Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/18] block/backup: simplify backup_incremental_init_copy_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/18] block/backup: move from HBitmap to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/18] util/id: add block-bitmap subsystem Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/18] block/backup: give a name to copy-bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/18] block/backup: allow use existent copy-bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/18] block: allow serialized reads to intersect Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/18] block: improve should_update_child Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/18] iotests: handle -f argument correctly for qemu_io_silent Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/18] iotests: allow resume_drive by node name Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/18] iotests: prepare 055 to graph changes during backup job Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/18] block: introduce new filter driver: fleecing-hook Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 12:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-04 13:59 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 14:52 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-04 21:19 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-05 15:00 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-05 15:52 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-05 16:40 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-05 16:47 ` Eric Blake
2018-10-05 18:31 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/18] block/fleecing-hook: internal api Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 12:50 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 15/18] qapi: add x-drop-fleecing qmp command Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 16/18] iotests: test new fleecing-hook driver in context of 222 iotest Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 17/18] block/backup: tiny refactor backup_job_create Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 18/18] block/backup: use fleecing-hook instead of write notifiers Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 18:46 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-02 20:19 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2018-10-03 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/18] fleecing-hook driver for backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 15:36 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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