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From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] migration: Downtime tracepoints
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:06:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8d16910-a496-410c-9c1c-68661b81f030@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231026155337.596281-1-peterx@redhat.com>



On 26/10/2023 16:53, Peter Xu wrote:
> This small series (actually only the last patch; first two are cleanups)
> wants to improve ability of QEMU downtime analysis similarly to what Joao
> used to propose here:
> 
>   https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230926161841.98464-1-joao.m.martins@oracle.com
> 
Thanks for following up on the idea; It's been hard to have enough bandwidth for
everything on the past set of weeks :(

> But with a few differences:
> 
>   - Nothing exported yet to qapi, all tracepoints so far
> 
>   - Instead of major checkpoints (stop, iterable, non-iterable, resume-rp),
>     finer granule by providing downtime measurements for each vmstate (I
>     made microsecond to be the unit to be accurate).  So far it seems
>     iterable / non-iterable is the core of the problem, and I want to nail
>     it to per-device.
> 
>   - Trace dest QEMU too
> 
> For the last bullet: consider the case where a device save() can be super
> fast, while load() can actually be super slow.  Both of them will
> contribute to the ultimate downtime, but not a simple summary: when src
> QEMU is save()ing on device1, dst QEMU can be load()ing on device2.  So
> they can run in parallel.  However the only way to figure all components of
> the downtime is to record both.
> 
> Please have a look, thanks.
>

I like your series, as it allows a user to pinpoint one particular bad device,
while covering the load side too. The checkpoints of migration on the other hand
were useful -- while also a bit ugly -- for the sort of big picture of how
downtime breaks down. Perhaps we could add that /also/ as tracepoitns without
specifically commiting to be exposed in QAPI.

More fundamentally, how can one capture the 'stop' part? There's also time spent
there like e.g. quiescing/stopping vhost-net workers, or suspending the VF
device. All likely as bad to those tracepoints pertaining device-state/ram
related stuff (iterable and non-iterable portions).


> Peter Xu (3):
>   migration: Set downtime_start even for postcopy
>   migration: Add migration_downtime_start|end() helpers
>   migration: Add per vmstate downtime tracepoints
> 
>  migration/migration.c  | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------
>  migration/savevm.c     | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  migration/trace-events |  2 ++
>  3 files changed, 72 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-26 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-26 15:53 [PATCH 0/3] migration: Downtime tracepoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 15:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] migration: Set downtime_start even for postcopy Peter Xu
2023-10-26 17:05   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-26 15:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] migration: Add migration_downtime_start|end() helpers Peter Xu
2023-10-26 17:11   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-26 15:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] migration: Add per vmstate downtime tracepoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 16:06 ` Joao Martins [this message]
2023-10-26 17:03   ` [PATCH 0/3] migration: Downtime tracepoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 18:18     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-26 19:33       ` Joao Martins
2023-10-26 20:07         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-27  8:58           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-27 14:41             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-27 22:17               ` Joao Martins
2023-10-30 15:13                 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-30 16:09                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-30 16:11                     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-26 19:01 ` [PATCH 4/3] migration: Add tracepoints for downtime checkpoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 19:43   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-26 20:08     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-26 20:14       ` Peter Xu

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