From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] migration: Downtime tracepoints
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:06:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8d16910-a496-410c-9c1c-68661b81f030@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231026155337.596281-1-peterx@redhat.com>
On 26/10/2023 16:53, Peter Xu wrote:
> This small series (actually only the last patch; first two are cleanups)
> wants to improve ability of QEMU downtime analysis similarly to what Joao
> used to propose here:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230926161841.98464-1-joao.m.martins@oracle.com
>
Thanks for following up on the idea; It's been hard to have enough bandwidth for
everything on the past set of weeks :(
> But with a few differences:
>
> - Nothing exported yet to qapi, all tracepoints so far
>
> - Instead of major checkpoints (stop, iterable, non-iterable, resume-rp),
> finer granule by providing downtime measurements for each vmstate (I
> made microsecond to be the unit to be accurate). So far it seems
> iterable / non-iterable is the core of the problem, and I want to nail
> it to per-device.
>
> - Trace dest QEMU too
>
> For the last bullet: consider the case where a device save() can be super
> fast, while load() can actually be super slow. Both of them will
> contribute to the ultimate downtime, but not a simple summary: when src
> QEMU is save()ing on device1, dst QEMU can be load()ing on device2. So
> they can run in parallel. However the only way to figure all components of
> the downtime is to record both.
>
> Please have a look, thanks.
>
I like your series, as it allows a user to pinpoint one particular bad device,
while covering the load side too. The checkpoints of migration on the other hand
were useful -- while also a bit ugly -- for the sort of big picture of how
downtime breaks down. Perhaps we could add that /also/ as tracepoitns without
specifically commiting to be exposed in QAPI.
More fundamentally, how can one capture the 'stop' part? There's also time spent
there like e.g. quiescing/stopping vhost-net workers, or suspending the VF
device. All likely as bad to those tracepoints pertaining device-state/ram
related stuff (iterable and non-iterable portions).
> Peter Xu (3):
> migration: Set downtime_start even for postcopy
> migration: Add migration_downtime_start|end() helpers
> migration: Add per vmstate downtime tracepoints
>
> migration/migration.c | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------
> migration/savevm.c | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> migration/trace-events | 2 ++
> 3 files changed, 72 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-26 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-26 15:53 [PATCH 0/3] migration: Downtime tracepoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 15:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] migration: Set downtime_start even for postcopy Peter Xu
2023-10-26 17:05 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-26 15:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] migration: Add migration_downtime_start|end() helpers Peter Xu
2023-10-26 17:11 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-26 15:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] migration: Add per vmstate downtime tracepoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 16:06 ` Joao Martins [this message]
2023-10-26 17:03 ` [PATCH 0/3] migration: Downtime tracepoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 18:18 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-26 19:33 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-26 20:07 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-27 8:58 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-27 14:41 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-27 22:17 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-30 15:13 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-30 16:09 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-30 16:11 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-26 19:01 ` [PATCH 4/3] migration: Add tracepoints for downtime checkpoints Peter Xu
2023-10-26 19:43 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-26 20:08 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-26 20:14 ` Peter Xu
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